Newton's 3rd law and ether in space

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The discussion revolves around the implications of Newton's 3rd law in relation to the existence of ether in space. Participants explore whether Newton's 3rd law can be interpreted to suggest that the mass of ether, or the space between objects, should be zero, and how this relates to concepts of electromagnetic energy.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asserts that an article claims Newton's 3rd law implies the mass of space between objects is zero, leading to the conclusion that ether does not exist.
  • Another participant mentions electromagnetic energy being stored in space and questions its relevance to Newton's 3rd law, suggesting that electromagnetic momentum should be considered in conservation laws.
  • A participant expresses skepticism about the quality of the webpage referenced, indicating that it may not provide a reliable argument regarding the relationship between Newton's 3rd law and ether.
  • Another participant agrees with the skepticism and finds the webpage questionable, while also suggesting that the rest of the site may warrant further examination.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the validity of the claims made in the referenced article, with some questioning its reliability and others expressing uncertainty about the implications of Newton's 3rd law on the existence of ether.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes varying interpretations of Newton's 3rd law and its implications, as well as differing views on the relevance of electromagnetic energy in this context. There are unresolved questions about the assumptions underlying the claims made in the article.

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Hey everyone,

I've read in an article that newton's 3rd law proves that there is no ether in space. Why is that?
Hey everyone,

I've read in an article that Newton's 3rd law proves that there is no ether in space. It says, according to Newton's 3rd law, the mass of the space between objects should be 0; then, ether does not actually exist.
Could you please explain to me why Newton's 3rd law imply that the mass of ether should be zero?
https://lockhaven.edu/~dsimanek/cutting/3rdlaw.htm (please check number 6)
 
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appot89 said:
the mass of the space between objects should be 0;

Electromagnetic energy is stored in space as (ED+BH)/2. I have not heard of its influence to the Newton's third law though we live in the world of electromagnetic technology, e.g. wifi. In this case electromagnetic energy and momentum should be included into account of their conservations in system, of course.
 
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appot89 said:
Summary:: Hey everyone,

I've read in an article that Newton's 3rd law proves that there is no ether in space. Why is that?

Hey everyone,

I've read in an article that Newton's 3rd law proves that there is no ether in space. It says, according to Newton's 3rd law, the mass of the space between objects should be 0; then, ether does not actually exist.
Could you please explain to me why Newton's 3rd law imply that the mass of ether should be zero?
https://lockhaven.edu/~dsimanek/cutting/3rdlaw.htm (please check number 6)
I think that webpage is not very good at all. I would ignore what it says.
 
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Agreed. I find the page highly questionable.

Edit: The rest of the site seems to be okay, so I would take a further look before casting judgment on the whole site. But I only did a quick peruse, not an in-depth look.
 
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