Newton's Cradle: Does it Really Demonstrate P = mv and E = 1/2mv^2?

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The forum discussion centers on the assertion that Newton's Cradle does not specifically demonstrate the equations for momentum (P = mv) or kinetic energy (E = 1/2mv^2). Instead, it illustrates that multiple laws of motion and conservation principles operate simultaneously. Participants agree that while these equations are foundational definitions, the Cradle cannot be used to derive them specifically, but rather showcases a variety of consistent equations related to conservation laws.

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I have asserted that Newton's Cradle does not demonstrate specifically that P = mv or that E = 1/2mv^2.

Rather, that it demonstrates only that two *different* laws of motion/conservation are simultaneously at work.

An alternative form of this assertion is that by observing Newton's cradle, you cannot *specifically* derive the above two equations, but rather only an infinite number of pairs of *consistent* equations.

Opinions?

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HB
 
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HoloBarre said:
I have asserted that Newton's Cradle does not demonstrate specifically that P = mv or that E = 1/2mv^2.
Those are mathematical formulations of the definitions of momentum and KE, therefore you don't have to "demonstrate" them.In the case of KE the formula can be derived from other definitions but in the end is still a definition.in the case of momentum p=mv and that is that.
HoloBarre said:
Rather, that it demonstrates only that two *different* laws of motion/conservation are simultaneously at work.
HB
I always considered it a cool toy that shows the conservation laws.
HoloBarre said:
An alternative form of this assertion is that by observing Newton's cradle, you cannot *specifically* derive the above two equations, but rather only an infinite number of pairs of *consistent* equations.
What pairs of equations are you referring to?
 

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