# Newton's Cradle same diameter, different mass

• lostagain
In summary, the mass of the balls does not affect the equations for kinetic energy and momentum/impulse as long as all the balls have the same mass and air resistance can be ignored. This is because both kinetic energy and momentum are proportional to the mass, so it can be cancelled or divided out of equations. The difference in impact between the metal and marble balls is due to the difference in their mass, but they both need the same amount of impulse to reach the same height.

#### lostagain

Homework Statement
I have two cradles, one with 5 metal balls 2.54cm in diameter and 66g and one with 5 marble balls 2.54cm in diameter and 21g. The 1st metal ball was released with no applied force from 10cm which kicked the 5th ball out to 10cm's. I assumed since P and KE were both different for the metal and the marble balls, that the marble ball, when tested from the same drop height would not bounce as far. It did, 5th ball went out 10cm too.
How can the mass not affect the 5th ball more with the metal ball?
Relevant Equations
Ball Type Weight Grams
Metal 66
Marble 21

V = SQRT(D * (acceleration due to gravity or 9.8 m/s^2))2
D = .1 in meters

P=MV
KE = =(MV^2) / 2
Ball drops cm P (Momentum)
Metal 10cm 92.4
Marble 10cm 29.4

Ball drops cm KE
Metal KE 10cm 64.68
Marble KE 10cm 20.58

As long as all balls in a cradle have the same mass (which they do here), and as long as they're dense enough to allow us to ignore air resistance (this too is OK here), the mass doesn't matter.

Why? Because both KE and momentum/impulse are proportional to the ball mass M, so for any equation involving M we can remove M by either cancelling (when it appears in the numerator and denominator of a fraction) or dividing the whole equation by M.

Looked at another way: the metal ball scenario does affect the 5th ball more: it imparts approximately three times (66/21) the impulse to that ball compared to what is imparted to the fifth ball in the marble-ball cradle. But it needs three times the impulse to make the ball reach the same height, because the ball is three times as heavy.

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