Newton's first law of motion and Inertial Systems

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The discussion centers on Newton's first law of motion and the concept of inertial systems as presented in "An Introduction to Mechanics" by Kleppner and Kolenkow. It establishes that Newton's first law asserts the existence of inertial frames, which are defined as systems where isolated bodies move uniformly. However, the conversation reveals a contradiction regarding the existence of inertial systems due to the curvature of spacetime, suggesting that while true inertial frames may not exist, frames can be considered inertial to first order. This nuanced understanding is critical for grasping the implications of classical mechanics.

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I have just begun my journey in Classical Mechanics with the book "An Introduction to Mechanics" by Kleppner and Kolenkow. I find myself stuck at Newton's first law. The book presents Newton's first law as follows:

"Newton's first law is an assertion that inertial frames exist."

The book also states:

"Newton's first law is part definition and part experimental. Isolated bodies move uniformly in inertial systems is by virtue of the definition of an inertial system. In contrast, the assertion that inertial systems exist is a statement about the physical world."

The above statements lead me to believe that inertial systems exist. However, it is believed that an inertial system does not exist. Does this belief not contradict the statements above? Do inertial frames really exist?

Also, in an inertial frame, not only isolated bodies but anybody experiencing a net zero force moves with constant velocity( or moves uniformly ). This is the first law that we all know. The book, however, focuses only on isolated bodies. Does this not leave us with an incomplete understanding of the first law?
 
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rohit dutta said:
The above statements lead me to believe that inertial systems exist. However, it is believed that an inertial system does not exist. Does this belief not contradict the statements above? Do inertial frames really exist?
Inertial frames do not exist because of the curvature of spacetime. But frames exist that are inertial to first order, and that is probably to what the text is referring.
 
andrewkirk said:
Inertial frames do not exist because of the curvature of spacetime. But frames exist that are inertial to first order, and that is probably to what the text is referring.

What has the curvature of space-time got to do with the existence of inertial frames? Also, what do you mean by frames are inertial to first order?
 

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