Newton's law conceptual question

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The discussion revolves around conceptual questions related to Newton's laws, specifically focusing on the forces exerted between the Earth and an individual, as well as the behavior of ice cubes floating in water when they melt.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the implications of Newton's third law regarding the forces between the Earth and a person, questioning the significance of the forces involved. They also discuss the effects of melting ice on water levels, considering density and volume changes in relation to mass conservation.

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There is an active exchange of ideas, with participants affirming each other's thoughts on the questions posed. Some guidance is offered regarding the principles involved, but no definitive consensus has been reached on the interpretations of the scenarios presented.

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Participants express caution in their responses, indicating a desire to avoid incorrect statements. The discussion reflects a focus on understanding the underlying physics concepts rather than arriving at conclusive answers.

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1. Homework Statement [/b]
The force you exert on the Earth is insignificant compared to the force the Earth exerts on you. (True or false)

The attempt at a solution[/b]

I believe that this is false based upon Newton's third law--shouldn't the forces be equal and opposite?


2. Ice cube floating in glass of water--water level increases when it melts.

Is this also false? Unless the ice cube is being held under the water, shouldn't the density and volume differences cancel out since the mass does not change? (Assuming the ice is chemically identical to the water?)
 
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I believe that this is false based upon Newton's third law--shouldn't the forces be equal and opposite?

I believe You're right.

about the second question , I don't want to say something wrong, so You'll have to wait some 1 else .
but I think you're right here as well
 
You are right at 2, too. At yes, that is the right way of thinking.
 
Thank you both!
 
Welcome to PF!

Hi riverjib! Welcome to PF! :smile:
riverjib said:
The force you exert on the Earth is insignificant compared to the force the Earth exerts on you. (True or false)

I believe that this is false based upon Newton's third law--shouldn't the forces be equal and opposite?

Yup! :biggrin:
Ice cube floating in glass of water--water level increases when it melts.

Is this also false? Unless the ice cube is being held under the water, shouldn't the density and volume differences cancel out since the mass does not change? (Assuming the ice is chemically identical to the water?)

Yup again!

(but mention the law specifically: water displaced equals … ?)

That's why sea-level doesn't rise when floating ice in Antarctica melts. :wink:
 
Thanks Tim :smile:
I'm glad I found this forum!
 

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