Newton's laws and incline surfaces

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The problem involves a box given an initial velocity of 5 m/s moving up a smooth incline of 20 degrees. Participants are tasked with determining the distance the box travels before coming to rest, while grappling with the concepts of forces and acceleration on inclined planes.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the correct interpretation of the incline angle and its implications for calculating acceleration. There is confusion regarding the use of trigonometric functions and the components of gravitational force acting on the box.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing with various interpretations of the incline angle being explored. Some participants have provided calculations for acceleration and distance, but there is no consensus on the correct approach or final answer. Guidance has been offered regarding the correct trigonometric functions to use.

Contextual Notes

There is ambiguity in the problem statement regarding the angle measurement, as it does not specify degrees. Participants are working under the assumption that the angle is 20 degrees, but this has led to differing interpretations and calculations.

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Homework Statement



A box is given an initial velocity of 5m/s up a smooth 20 incline surface . The distance the box travel before coming to rest is?


Homework Equations



I can't solve it correctly , I can't get the idea of this question

The Attempt at a Solution



x= ?
vi=5
v=0
a=?

F = ma
mg cos ? = a

tan-1 20 = 87.14
180 = 90 + 87.14 + ?
?= 180 -90-87.14
?=2.9

(mg cos 2.9 = ma ) /m
g cos 2.9 = a
a= 28.03

x = 25 /( 28.03 )2
x= 0.45 m

My answer is so wrong !
But i can't figure out how to solve this problem
 
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naada said:
A box is given an initial velocity of 5m/s up a smooth 20 incline surface .
Presumably a 20 degree incline?


F = ma
mg cos ? = a
What's the component of the weight acting down the incline?

tan-1 20 = 87.14
180 = 90 + 87.14 + ?
?= 180 -90-87.14
?=2.9
Not sure what you're doing here. I presume that the angle is given as 20 degrees.

(mg cos 2.9 = ma ) /m
g cos 2.9 = a
a= 28.03
You have the wrong angle (and trig function).


x = 25 /( 28.03 )2
x= 0.45 m
Sanity check: The acceleration due to gravity is only 9.8 m/s^2, so how can the acceleration parallel to the incline be greater than that?

Find the correct acceleration and that kinematic equation will work.

Read this to learn how to handle inclined planes: http://www.physicsclassroom.com/Class/vectors/u3l3e.cfm"
 
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Presumably a 20 degree incline?

the question didn't mention the word "degree" or " ْ "
it's exactly as I wrote it .
So I toke 20 as the slop

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x=? vi=5 vf=0 a=?

F = ma
(m g cos20 = m a) / m
9.8 cos20 = a
a=9.21

x=25/(2a)
x=25/(18.42)
x=1.37 m
Which is also wrong

#
180 = 90+20+?
180 -90-20=70ْ

F= m a
(m g cos 70 = m a)/m
9.8 cos 70 = a
a=3.35

x=25/(2a)
x=25/(2*3.35)
x=3.37 m
I think this one is the right one,but not sure.

thanks for the link was so useful
 
naada said:
Presumably a 20 degree incline?

the question didn't mention the word "degree" or " ْ "
it's exactly as I wrote it .
So I toke 20 as the slop
I would take it to mean a 20 degree angle to the horizontal.

#
x=? vi=5 vf=0 a=?

F = ma
(m g cos20 = m a) / m
9.8 cos20 = a
a=9.21

x=25/(2a)
x=25/(18.42)
x=1.37 m
Which is also wrong
It's wrong because you took cos20, which is the component perpendicular to the incline. You need the parallel component.


#
180 = 90+20+?
180 -90-20=70ْ

F= m a
(m g cos 70 = m a)/m
9.8 cos 70 = a
a=3.35

x=25/(2a)
x=25/(2*3.35)
x=3.37 m
I think this one is the right one,but not sure.
This time you used the correct acceleration (which is g sin20), but you made a small error in your final calculation--probably a typo. (Redo the very last step.)

Other than that minor problem, you got it right.
 

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