Newton's laws and incline surfaces

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The discussion centers on solving a physics problem involving a box moving up a 20-degree incline with an initial velocity of 5 m/s. Participants struggle with calculating the correct acceleration and distance traveled before the box comes to rest. The correct approach involves using the gravitational component acting down the incline, specifically applying g sin(20) for acceleration. Several calculations are attempted, with errors identified in the use of trigonometric functions and the final distance formula. Ultimately, the correct method is emphasized, leading to a more accurate solution for the distance traveled.
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Homework Statement



A box is given an initial velocity of 5m/s up a smooth 20 incline surface . The distance the box travel before coming to rest is?


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I can't solve it correctly , I can't get the idea of this question

The Attempt at a Solution



x= ?
vi=5
v=0
a=?

F = ma
mg cos ? = a

tan-1 20 = 87.14
180 = 90 + 87.14 + ?
?= 180 -90-87.14
?=2.9

(mg cos 2.9 = ma ) /m
g cos 2.9 = a
a= 28.03

x = 25 /( 28.03 )2
x= 0.45 m

My answer is so wrong !
But i can't figure out how to solve this problem
 
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naada said:
A box is given an initial velocity of 5m/s up a smooth 20 incline surface .
Presumably a 20 degree incline?


F = ma
mg cos ? = a
What's the component of the weight acting down the incline?

tan-1 20 = 87.14
180 = 90 + 87.14 + ?
?= 180 -90-87.14
?=2.9
Not sure what you're doing here. I presume that the angle is given as 20 degrees.

(mg cos 2.9 = ma ) /m
g cos 2.9 = a
a= 28.03
You have the wrong angle (and trig function).


x = 25 /( 28.03 )2
x= 0.45 m
Sanity check: The acceleration due to gravity is only 9.8 m/s^2, so how can the acceleration parallel to the incline be greater than that?

Find the correct acceleration and that kinematic equation will work.

Read this to learn how to handle inclined planes: http://www.physicsclassroom.com/Class/vectors/u3l3e.cfm"
 
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Presumably a 20 degree incline?

the question didn't mention the word "degree" or " ْ "
it's exactly as I wrote it .
So I toke 20 as the slop

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x=? vi=5 vf=0 a=?

F = ma
(m g cos20 = m a) / m
9.8 cos20 = a
a=9.21

x=25/(2a)
x=25/(18.42)
x=1.37 m
Which is also wrong

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180 = 90+20+?
180 -90-20=70ْ

F= m a
(m g cos 70 = m a)/m
9.8 cos 70 = a
a=3.35

x=25/(2a)
x=25/(2*3.35)
x=3.37 m
I think this one is the right one,but not sure.

thanks for the link was so useful
 
naada said:
Presumably a 20 degree incline?

the question didn't mention the word "degree" or " ْ "
it's exactly as I wrote it .
So I toke 20 as the slop
I would take it to mean a 20 degree angle to the horizontal.

#
x=? vi=5 vf=0 a=?

F = ma
(m g cos20 = m a) / m
9.8 cos20 = a
a=9.21

x=25/(2a)
x=25/(18.42)
x=1.37 m
Which is also wrong
It's wrong because you took cos20, which is the component perpendicular to the incline. You need the parallel component.


#
180 = 90+20+?
180 -90-20=70ْ

F= m a
(m g cos 70 = m a)/m
9.8 cos 70 = a
a=3.35

x=25/(2a)
x=25/(2*3.35)
x=3.37 m
I think this one is the right one,but not sure.
This time you used the correct acceleration (which is g sin20), but you made a small error in your final calculation--probably a typo. (Redo the very last step.)

Other than that minor problem, you got it right.
 
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