Newton's Laws and the coefficient of kinetic friction

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The problem involves a wooden crate sliding across a rough surface, with the goal of determining the coefficient of kinetic friction based on its initial velocity, distance traveled, and the forces acting on it. The subject area pertains to Newton's laws of motion and friction.

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  • Participants discuss calculating acceleration and applying Newton's second law to find the coefficient of kinetic friction. There are attempts to derive the coefficient from known values and equations, with some participants questioning their calculations and assumptions.

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The discussion includes various attempts to calculate acceleration and the coefficient of kinetic friction, with some participants identifying errors in their reasoning or calculations. There is acknowledgment of a common result among participants, but no explicit consensus on the final answer.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework problem, and there is mention of using specific methods like the GUESS method. Some participants express uncertainty about their calculations and the correctness of their results.

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Here is the problem:
A 12.5 Kg wooden crate with an initial velocity of 2.5m/s slides across a rough cement floor for 1.7 m before coming to rest. Find the coefficient of kinetic friction. (Use GUESS method.) The answer is 0.19.

The equation you use is: coefficient = kinetic friction/normal force

I worked backwards so I got 0.19 = kinetic friction/(9.8 gravity x 12.5 kg)

That means the kinetic friction has to be 23.275 N.

Can someone show me how to work this one correctly. I don't know where the 23.275 came from.
 
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Start by finding the crate's acceleration. Then apply Newton's 2nd law.
 
OK, so I figured out that acceleration is -.075 m/s^2. So friction is equal to m x a. This would mean the plugged in values would be: coefficient = (12.5 kg x -.75 m/s^2)/(12.5 kg x 9.8 m/s^2). I got the answer -.077 but this is wrong because the correct coefficient is .19. What am I doing wrong?

EDIT: I just realized that I forgot to square the velocity as I was solving for a. So the acceleration should have actually been -1.838 m/s^2. Thank you so much for the help. I finally figured it out.
 
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I do have one last question, is the working equation (v^2/x)(m) / (g)(m)?
 
is the mew exactly .19?
 
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i haven't done these types of problems in awhile but this is what i have.

to find acceleration use:
v^{2}_{f}=v^{2}_{i}+2a\Deltax//solve for a
a=(v^{2}_{f}-v^{2}_{i})/2\Deltax//substitute known values
a=-1.838m/s^{}2

now use:
\SigmaF=ma//the sum of the forces=ma;the only force acting here is friction
-\mumg=ma//m's cancel out and you get
\mu=-a/g
\mu=.187
 
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Yeah, I got that exact answer too. Thanks for the help.
 

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