Newton's Laws with Friction: Two Blocks

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The problem involves two blocks on a frictionless table, where a horizontal force is applied to one of the blocks. The original poster seeks to determine the contact force between the two blocks under different scenarios of force application.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to analyze the system by summing the masses and calculating the acceleration. They express uncertainty about their results for the contact forces in both scenarios.
  • Some participants confirm the acceleration calculation and suggest a method for finding the contact force by considering the net forces acting on each block.
  • Questions arise regarding the interpretation of "doing the opposite" in the context of the second part of the problem.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with some participants providing guidance on how to approach the second part of the problem. There is acknowledgment of the original poster's progress on the first part, but uncertainty remains regarding the second part's setup and calculations.

Contextual Notes

The original poster references specific values for masses and forces, and there is an indication that the problem is part of a homework assignment, which may impose certain constraints on the approach taken.

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Homework Statement



Part 1

Two blocks are in contact on a frictionless table. A horizontal force F is applied to M2, as shown. If M1 = 1.03 kg, M2 = 3.40 kg, and F = 5.10 N, find the size of the contact force between the two blocks.

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Part 2

If instead an equal but oppositely directed force is applied to M1 rather than M2, find the size of the contact force between the two blocks.


Homework Equations



I'm pretty sure F=MA is the equation to use.


The Attempt at a Solution



For this, I looked at the system as a whole, summed the masses and found the acceleration of the entire system.

I found this to be a=1.151m/s^2

I then isolated mass 2 and mass 1 to find the forces for part 1 and 2 respectively. I obtained the answers : 3.914N for part 1 and 1.85N for part 2.

Where am I going wrong?
 
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Net force acting on M1 is (the applied force F1 - reaction F2 from the mass M1)
Your acceleration is correct, and it is common for both.
So the acceleration of M1 = (F1 - F2)/M1 = a.
F1 is given. Find F2. Repeat the same thing in the opposite direction.
 
Ok, I got the first part, thanks!

The second part is still tripping me up though. What do you mean when you say do the opposite?
 
melv14 said:
Ok, I got the first part, thanks!

The second part is still tripping me up though. What do you mean when you say do the opposite?
Force is acted on M1 first.
 

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