Newton's Second Law and a bathroom scale

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The discussion centers on the application of Newton's Second Law using bathroom scales in an elevator scenario. The initial reading on the scales is 823 N when stationary. Participants calculated the readings for various elevator motions: moving upwards at a constant speed yields 823 N, accelerating downwards at 2.0 m/s² results in 655 N, and accelerating upwards at 2.0 m/s² gives 991 N. The consensus is that the textbook answers are incorrect, as they contradict the principles of physics regarding normal force and acceleration.

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This question has been troubling me... :

A physics teacher decides to use bathroom scales (calibrated in Newtons) in an elevator. The scales provide a measure of the force with which they push up on the teacher. When the lift is stationary the reading on the bathroom scales is 823 N. What will be the reading on the scales when the elevator is:

a) moving upwards at a constant speed of 2.0 m/s/s
b) accelerating downwards at 2.0 m/s/s
c) accelerating upwards at 2.0 m/s/s

The apparent answers at the back of the textbook read:
a) 700 N
b) 5.6 x 10^2 N
c) 8.4 x 10^2 N

I think they are wrong?

My answers are:
a) 823 N
b) 655 N
c) 991 N

Are my answers correct?
 
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How did you arrive at your answers? That way we can see if you are faulted in your method or not.
 
Yes, place where your work here so we could determine where any potential problem went.
 
For lift accelerating upwards : T = mg + ma, therefore answer = 84*9.8 + 84*2 = 991
For lift accelerating downwards : T = mg - ma, therefore answer =
84*9.8 - 84*2 = 655
 
Ok, well for 1, i assume it said moving at a constant 2 m/s not m/s/s...in that case, you are right, the Normal force(what the scale reads) is the same

Ok, your equation is Fn-Fg=m*a

For 2 m/s^2 upward, you have Fn-823=(823/9.8)*2

Which means Fn=991...which is what u got...

And for downward Fn-823=(823/9.8)*-2 which gives Fn= 655

Either were both making the same mistake (I haven't done these in a while lol) or the book is just wrong..

Lemme try to use g=10 for the calculations..
Fn=987 and Fn=658..yea still close to our answers and far from the books..

I think the fact that they say that with constant speed, the normal force changes, says that the book is broken
 
Yeah, the book is wrong.
 
the book is wrong
 
This is why i never trust books.
 

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