Nitrates and Nitrites with FeSO4 + CH3COOH

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the identification of nitrites (NO2-) using a reaction involving freshly prepared iron(II) sulfate (FeSO4) and acetic acid (CH3COOH). Participants explore whether this method could be a valid alternative to the established brown ring test for nitrates (NO3-) using sulfuric acid (H2SO4).

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the validity of using acetic acid to identify NO2-, referencing a paper that suggests it cannot be done.
  • Another participant expresses skepticism about the effectiveness of acetic acid compared to concentrated sulfuric acid, which is typically required for such tests.
  • A participant mentions that they have not learned of any reaction involving acetic acid for identifying NO2-, aligning with the skepticism expressed by others.
  • One participant acknowledges their expectation that acetic acid would not work for detection but cautions against assuming their expectations are always correct.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally express skepticism about the use of acetic acid for identifying nitrites, with no consensus on a definitive conclusion regarding its effectiveness.

Contextual Notes

There are references to prior knowledge and literature that may not be universally accepted or verified within the discussion, indicating a reliance on varying levels of understanding and assumptions about chemical reactions.

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Homework Statement


I know that NO3- can be separately identify using newly made FeSO4 + H2SO4 using the brown ring test.
The problem is can we identify NO2- using newly made FeSO4 + CH3COOH? Replacing H2SO4 with CH3COOH?

Homework Equations


NO2-(aq) + FeSO4(aq) + CH3COOH(aq)[itex]\Rightarrow[/itex] [A Brown Circle]?
or is this equation invalid?

The Attempt at a Solution


Nothing being attempted! :(
 
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NO2- or NO3-, you are inconsistent.

If NO3- try to find out what is the reaction involved.
 
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Its NO2- is the problem. I've never learn such a reaction using Acetic acid to identify NO2- and a paper says you can't but I got it from a friend who says that using Acetic acid can identify NO2-.
 
I find it rather unlikely. While NO2- can interfere, test in general requires concentrated sulfuric acid, I doubt acetic acid is strong enough.
 
Yeah, I believe it too. So may I have the final conclusion as Acetic acid does nothing regarding detection of NO2-? I've never heard such a test too!
 
That's what I expect, but I have learned long to not assume everything I expect is true.
 

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