No Integral Solutions to Larsen Problem

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The discussion revolves around finding all integral solutions to the equation a² + b² + c² = a²b², with a hint suggesting analysis modulo 4. Participants are exploring the implications of the equation and the nature of the solutions.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to analyze the equation by considering congruences modulo 4, leading to a conclusion about the parity of a, b, and c. Some participants question the completeness of the proof and express uncertainty about the implications of the word "all" in the problem statement.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with some participants providing insights into the proof's limitations and others expressing their doubts. There is recognition of the trivial solution (0, 0, 0), but the focus remains on the non-trivial cases.

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Participants are grappling with the implications of the problem's wording and the nature of the solutions, particularly in relation to the requirement for integral solutions.

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[SOLVED] larsen problem

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Determine all integral solutions of a^2+b^2+c^2=a^2 b^2[/tex]. (Hint: Analyze modulo 4.)<h2>Homework Equations</h2><br /> <h2>The Attempt at a Solution</h2><br /> a^2,b^2,c^2 are congruent to 0 or 1 mod 4 implies that a^2,b^2,c^2 are all congruent to 0 mod 4. This implies that a,b,c are even.<br /> <br /> a=2a_1, b=2b_1, c=2c_1<br /> <br /> Then we have a_1^2+b_1^2+c_1^2 = 4a_1^2 b_1^2. Now it is very clear that a_1^2,b_1^2,c_1^2 are all congruent to 0 mod 4.<br /> <br /> Let a_1=2a_2,b_1=2b_2,c_1=2c_2.<br /> <br /> If we keep doing this, we get 3 decreasing sequences of positive integers that never reach zero, which is impossible.<br /> <br /> Therefore there are no solutions.<br /> <br /> Is that right?
 
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anyone?
 
Is there some element of this proof that you aren't confident of? Because I don't see anything to worry about.
 
No. I'm just not confident in my proofs in general and the word "all" in the problem statements made me think there would be at least one.
 
Well, there is a=0, b=0 and c=0. But you knew that, right?
 
Of course :rolleyes:

The reason my proof does not apply to that case is because then, for example, a,a_1,a_2,... is constant sequence, nondecreasing sequence of 0s. However, if any of a,b,c are nonzero then everything in my proof applies.
 

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