No Mass Objects: Can They Remain Stationary?

  • Context: Graduate 
  • Thread starter Thread starter cubud
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Mass
Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the concept of massless objects, particularly in relation to their ability to remain stationary while other massive bodies, like Earth, move. Participants explore the implications of mass on motion, specifically questioning whether an object with zero mass could exist at rest or would necessarily travel at the speed of light.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the feasibility of adjusting a body's mass to achieve a state of zero mass, suggesting that an object with zero mass must move at the speed of light to exist.
  • Another participant asserts that massless objects, such as photons, always travel at the speed of light, indicating a consensus on this point.
  • There is a challenge regarding the notion of mass, with a participant mentioning different types of mass in relativity, including "invariant mass" and "relativistic mass," and discussing the implications for photons.
  • Some participants express curiosity about the possibility of massless objects traveling faster than light, questioning the relationship between mass and speed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that massless objects must travel at the speed of light, but there is disagreement regarding the implications of mass and the possibility of adjusting mass to achieve a stationary state.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes unresolved questions about the definitions of mass and the conditions under which massless objects might behave differently. There is also ambiguity regarding the adjustment of mass and its implications for motion.

cubud
Messages
29
Reaction score
0
Light has very little mass and always travels at the same speed. If I could adjust a body so that it had no mass would it remain stationary as the planet Earth flew off on its orbit around the Sun, or would it spread out evenly in all directions at the speed of light?

Let's put aside the matter of the massive explosion :-)
 
Physics news on Phys.org
I am curious how you would "adjust" a body to change its mass at all. An object with zero mass must move at the speed of light or it wouldn't exist at all.
 
dulrich said:
I am curious how you would "adjust" a body to change its mass at all. An object with zero mass must move at the speed of light or it wouldn't exist at all.

That's an avenue you really don't want to go down :) I just wanted to know if objects without mass will always be traveling at the speed of light.
 
cubud said:
I just wanted to know if objects without mass will always be traveling at the speed of light.

Yes.
 
Why not faster? I was told that the photon traveled at the speed of light but it has a very, very small mass that is almost negligible (but still exists). So why wouldn't a smaller mass go faster?
 
FeDeX_LaTeX said:
Why not faster? I was told that the photon traveled at the speed of light but it has a very, very small mass that is almost negligible (but still exists). So why wouldn't a smaller mass go faster?
There is more than one sort of mass in relativity, e.g. "invariant mass" and "relativistic mass". Most physicists nowadays mean "invariant mass" when they say "mass". "Relativistic mass" is really just another name for "energy" (divided by c2) and the term is deprecated.

Photons do have relativistic mass (as they have energy) but their invariant mass is always zero.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
1K
  • · Replies 13 ·
Replies
13
Views
2K
  • · Replies 23 ·
Replies
23
Views
2K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
4K
  • · Replies 20 ·
Replies
20
Views
4K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 36 ·
2
Replies
36
Views
5K
  • · Replies 17 ·
Replies
17
Views
2K