No. of real solutions in exponential equation

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The discussion centers around the number of real solutions to the equation $3^x + 4^x + 5^x = x^2$. Participants explore the behavior of both sides of the equation, considering their growth rates and potential intersections.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the right-hand side (RHS) grows superexponentially while the left-hand side (LHS) is quadratic, suggesting they intersect at most finitely often.
  • One participant argues that as $x$ approaches $-\infty$, the LHS increases from $0$ to $12$, while the RHS decreases from $\infty$ to $0$, indicating a single intersection in this range.
  • Another participant suggests that for $x > 0$, the LHS increases very rapidly compared to the RHS, which increases more slowly, implying that the LHS will always be greater than the RHS for positive $x$.
  • A hint is provided to consider the function $y = 3^x + 4^x + 5^x - x^2$ and to use the Intermediate Value Theorem to demonstrate at least one solution, followed by Rolle's Theorem to show uniqueness.
  • One participant expresses confidence that the LHS increases faster than the RHS for all positive $x$, reinforcing the idea that this growth difference is sufficient to establish the number of solutions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the LHS grows faster than the RHS, but there is no consensus on the exact number of solutions, as some suggest there is one solution while others provide hints towards proving uniqueness without formal proofs.

Contextual Notes

Some arguments rely on the behavior of the functions at extreme values of $x$, and assumptions about their growth rates may depend on specific definitions or interpretations of "superexponential" versus "quadratic" growth.

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no. of real solution of the equation $3^x+4^x+5^x = x^2$
 
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Re: no. of real solution in exponential equation.

The RHS grows superexponentially whether the LHS is quadratic. So, for obvious reasons, they intersects each other at most finitely often. A more close inspection of the behaviour would lead to the fact that they do indeed intersect ones.

PS I have no formal proof of this piece of problem, unfortunately.

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Re: no. of real solution in exponential equation.

mathbalarka said:
The RHS grows superexponentially whether the LHS is quadratic. So, for obvious reasons, they intersects each other at most finitely often. A more close inspection of the behaviour would lead to the fact that they do indeed intersect ones.

PS I have no formal proof of this piece of problem, unfortunately.
That argument looks correct to me. As $x$ goes from $-\infty $ to $0$, the LHS increases from $0$ to $12$, and the RHS decreases from $\infty$ to $0$. So the graphs must cross exactly once. For $x>0$ the LHS increases (very fast!) from $12$ to $\infty$ and the RHS increases much more slowly. If you differentiate both functions I am sure you will find that the LHS increases faster than the RHS for all positive $x$.
 
Re: No. of real solution in exponential equation

Hint:
[sp]Considering the function $y=3^x+4^x+5^x-x^2$, use the Intermediate Value Theorem to show that there is at least one solution, then use Rolle's Theorem to show that it is unique.[/sp]
 
Re: No. of real solution in exponential equation

Opalg said:
I am sure you will find that the LHS increases faster than the RHS for all positive x

That is evident, as I mentioned before, since LHS grows superexponentially, i.e., $$<< 5^x$$ whereas the RHS is quadratic. I think this is sufficient to prove the fact.

PS I see eddybob just posted a rigourus argument of the fact here :D
 

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