Node Voltage Method: Find Voltage Across 6A Current Source

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The discussion revolves around finding the voltage across a 6A current source using the Node Voltage Method. Participants are exploring the setup of the problem and the correct application of circuit analysis principles.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the setup of the node voltage equation and the importance of sign conventions in summing currents. There are questions about the correctness of terms in the equation and how to derive the current through a 10V source from the node voltage.

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Guidance has been provided regarding the setup of the node equation and the interpretation of terms. Participants are actively engaging with the problem, checking calculations, and clarifying misunderstandings about the relationships between voltage, current, and power.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the amount of direct assistance they can receive. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between different circuit elements and their respective contributions to the overall analysis.

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Homework Statement


Find the voltage, V, across the 6A current source

Homework Equations


V=IR
Node Voltage Method

The Attempt at a Solution


Did I set this up correctly to find my voltage?
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Almost. Be careful of the signs of the terms.

Judging by the sign you gave to the 6A supply term you're summing currents leaving the node. So why are your last two terms negative?
 
gneill said:
Almost. Be careful of the signs of the terms.

Judging by the sign you gave to the 6A supply term you're summing currents leaving the node. So why are your last two terms negative?
Oh, woops. Read the polarities incorrectly. So if I change the last 2 to positive, it's good?
 
Yes, that would be a correct expression. Make it an equation by setting it equal to zero :smile:
 
gneill said:
Yes, that would be a correct expression. Make it an equation by setting it equal to zero :smile:
Thanks!
 
gneill said:
Yes, that would be a correct expression. Make it an equation by setting it equal to zero :smile:
Got stuck again! :nb) The next question asks "What is the power associated with the 10V source?" I can find it using P=IV=I^2R=V^2/r, but how do I find the current through the 10V source?
 
Each term in the node equation represents a branch current. One of the terms corresponds to that current. Pick it out and use it now that you've found the node voltage.
 
gneill said:
Each term in the node equation represents a branch current. One of the terms corresponds to that current. Pick it out and use it now that you've found the node voltage.
Ohh. So I use (Vx-10)/20= (36-10)/10 = 2.6A And then using P=IV I can do (2.6A)(10V)= 26W***?
 
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That would be the idea, yes.
 
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gneill said:
That would be the idea, yes.
Ok thanks! 13W***
 
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Check your calculation for the current. (36 - 10)/10 = ?
 
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Marcin H said:
Ohh. So I use (Vx-10)/20= (36-10)/10 = 1.3A And then using P=IV I can do (1.3A)(10V)= 13W***?
gneill said:
Check your calculation for the current. (36 - 10)/10 = ?
Woops! 26 watts. :confused:
 
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Marcin H said:
Woops! 26 watts. :confused:
Try again. Show your calculations.
 
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gneill said:
Try again. Show your calculations.
What? Where did I go wrong? I = (36-10)/10 = 26/10 = 2.6A. Using that current and P=IV I can find the power in the 10V source. P = (2.6A)(10V) = 26 Watts
 
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Marcin H said:
What? Where did I go wrong? I = (36-10)/10 = 26/10 = 2.6A. Using that current and P=IV I can find the power in the 10V source. P = (2.6A)(10V) = 26 Watts

ORIGINAL QUESTION: what is the power associated with the 10V source?
 
  • #16
Marcin H said:
ORIGINAL QUESTION: what is the power associated with the 10V source?
Ah. My mistake. Sorry. I was thinking of the power associated with the branch as a whole. You have the correct result.
 
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