Noise in Engines: Investigating Chain & Sprocket Design

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the noise generated by chain and sprocket systems in two-wheeler four-stroke petrol engines, specifically focusing on the whistling noise produced by roller chains. Participants explore design parameters that contribute to noise and potential modifications to reduce it.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the only chain typically found in automotive engines is the timing chain, which is often replaced by quieter timing belts in modern designs.
  • Another participant specifies their interest in a roller timing chain in a two-wheeler engine, mentioning that noise is prominent at 2000 rpm and that reducing chain tension decreases noise levels.
  • A suggestion is made that silent chains are usually preferred for timing applications, and a link is provided to resources discussing noise and vibration in roller chains.
  • One participant expresses difficulty in finding a silent chain due to design limitations and inquires about modifications to the sprocket design to eliminate noise.
  • Another participant proposes that noise may stem from the rubbing contact between parts and suggests that geometry could play a role in the design, seeking prior information on this aspect.
  • A question is raised regarding necessary changes to the original sprocket design to account for manufacturing tolerances and the potential impact on performance.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying views on the types of chains used in engines and the sources of noise, with no consensus reached on specific design modifications or solutions to reduce noise.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention limitations in design options, such as the inability to use silent chains due to existing engine design constraints, and the potential effects of manufacturing tolerances on sprocket performance remain unresolved.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to engineers and designers working on two-wheeler engine systems, particularly those focused on noise reduction and chain-sprocket dynamics.

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hi..
can someone help me out with noise in engines..
i am specifically interested in noise due to running of chain on sprockets..
it is a sort of whistling noise...
which are those parameters in design of sprocket and chain which contribute in noise..
we can also talk in terms of different types of designs of chains and sprockets
 
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The only chain inside an automotive internal combustion engine is normally the timing chain, but in modern engines these are often replaced with relatively quiet timing belts.
 
i am talking of a two wheeler 4 stroke petrol engine.
in my existing design i have a sprocket and roller timing chain..
this is not a silent chain but a roller chain and the noise is prominent at 2000 rpm.
if i reduce the tension of the chain the noise level is reduced.
 
Thanks Jack action for good link that you have sent...
i have tried to find good silent chain but in the design of my engine there is no provision of silent chain...
only roller chain are available...
can we do something on the sprocket side to remove this noise...
maybe something which can modify the design such that the noise is eliminated..
 
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i think that the basic principle creates noise is rubbing contact between parts..
i think there is some geometry involved in making the design..
is there some before hand information on that..
 
what are changes we need to do in the original design of a sprocket to compensate for manufacturing tolerances?
how would it change the performance of sprocket?
 

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