Non-homogenous differential Equation

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around solving a non-homogeneous differential equation of the form y'' + 6y' + 9y = e^(-3x)/x^3. Participants are exploring methods for finding a particular solution, yp, after determining the complementary solution, yc.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss various methods for finding yp, including annihilators, undetermined coefficients, and variation of parameters. There is also a question about the appropriate form for the guess used in the method of undetermined coefficients.

Discussion Status

Some participants have shared successful attempts and insights regarding the choice of guess for yp. There is an acknowledgment of the challenges in determining the correct form for the derivative in the context of the problem. Multiple methods are being considered, and guidance has been offered regarding the appropriateness of certain techniques.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of potential confusion regarding the degree of the equation, with one participant questioning whether a typographical error occurred in the representation of the equation. Additionally, there is a note on the applicability of the method of undetermined coefficients based on the right side of the equation.

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Homework Statement


solve:
y""+6y'+9y=e-3x/x3


Homework Equations



y=yc+yp


The Attempt at a Solution



I found yc=C1e-3x+C2xe-3x
and am having difficulties finding yp. I am wondering which method would be the best to determine yp:

- annihilators
- undetermined coefficients
- variation of paramaters.
 
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Since it is in the form e^{ax}/x^k try using Ae^{-3x}/x
 
Thanks, it worked out. I have a hard time knowing what 'guess' to use for the derivative. How did you know to put it over x instead of x-3? I have a test tomorrow, so I want to make sure that I can do things properly.
 
I usually always try the simplest first. This doesn't pertain to this question, but if Ae^{ax} didn't work I would try Axe^{ax}, and if that didn't work I would try Ax^2e^{ax}. It can be rather tedious for some questions but eventually you start to notice patterns.
 
Is that really a fourth degree equation or is the second '' a typo?

"Undetermined coefficents" works when the right side of the equation is one of the types of solutions you can get as solutions to homogenous differential equations with constant coefficients: exponentials, sine or cosine, and polynomials, as well as combinations of those. That is not the case here. I recommend "variation of parameters".
 
I think he accidentally hit the quotation mark key.
 

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