B Non-Sinusoidal Standing Waves Existence?

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Standing waves can be non-sinusoidal, such as square or triangular waves, but they are typically composed of multiple sinusoidal components. The discussion highlights the importance of boundary conditions in determining the nature of standing waves, including the use of Bessel functions for circular shapes. It also touches on the role of Fourier analysis in understanding how non-sinusoidal waveforms can be represented as combinations of sinusoidal waves. The conversation reveals a frustration with repetitive questioning and emphasizes the need for clarity in the inquiry. Ultimately, understanding the relationship between boundary conditions and waveforms is crucial for deeper insights into standing waves.
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Looking for evidence and visual demonstrations of non-sinusoidal standing waves.
Hi everyone,

I'm curious if standing waves must be sinusoidal or if they can also be non-sinusoidal. Can anyone point me to videos or simulations of non-sinusoidal standing waves in action?

Thanks!
 
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It's all about the boundary conditions for the DEs, like bessel function for circles, etc.

 
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DaveE said:
It's all about the boundary conditions for the DEs, like bessel function for circles, etc.


Thanks, and what is the special boundary condition that works for sinusoids but not for other shapes?
 
QuantumCuriosity42 said:
Thanks, and what is the special boundary condition that works for sinusoids but not for other shapes?
Are you familiar with Fourier analysis? When you say non-sinusoidal waveforms, what exactly do you mean?
 
berkeman said:
Are you familiar with Fourier analysis? When you say non-sinusoidal waveforms, what exactly do you mean?
Yes I am. I mean any other shape, like a square or triangular wave, which also is a standing wave.
 
QuantumCuriosity42 said:
Yes I am. I mean any other shape, like a square or triangular wave, which also is a standing wave.
But those are composed of sinusoidal waves, no?
 
berkeman said:
But those are composed of sinusoidal waves, no?
Yes, but can multiple sinusoidal waves be stationary at the same time under the same boundary conditions?
 
Typically standing waves occur at a system's resonant frequencies. Those natural responses can be excited by any driving function that contains that frequency. It doesn't have to be just one. Think of a violin string that is aggressively bowed (is that a verb?), it can have multiple harmonics excited as standing waves. But it doesn't sound, or look like a pure sine wave. Which leads us back to @berkeman's question about fourier transforms, and what you really mean by "non-sinusoidal".
 
DaveE said:
aggressively bowed (is that a verb?)
Yes it is, although technically it is a verb phrase; it's a verb modified by an adverb. :smile:
 
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We have three threads on this. OP, are you going to keep asking again and again and again and again and again until you get the answer you want? Maybe if you tell us what this is all about we could provide a more satisfactory response.
 
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Well yeah, there's that. Thread closed for Moderation...
 
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Thread is reopened provisionally.

@QuantumCuriosity42 -- Why are you asking this type of question (repeatedly)? If you understand Fourier Analysis, you should be able to answer this question for yourself.
 
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