Nonuniform circular motion question

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The discussion revolves around nonuniform circular motion, specifically the relationship between tangential acceleration, centripetal acceleration, and their effects over time. Participants explore how these accelerations interact and change as motion continues.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants consider the implications of sustained tangential acceleration on centripetal acceleration and question whether centripetal acceleration changes over time. There is a focus on the definitions and relationships between tangential speed, angular velocity, and centripetal force.

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Some participants provide insights into the relationship between tangential and centripetal accelerations, while others question the assumptions about how these quantities interact. The discussion is ongoing, with multiple interpretations being explored.

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There is a mention of constraints related to the physical setup, such as the ability of a string to support the forces involved, which may influence the discussion on the limits of acceleration in circular motion.

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I'm thinking about this: what happens if a nonuniform circular motion goes on for a long time?

centripetal acceleration=tangential speed^2/r.

If there is an existent tangential acceleration: tangential speed increases. So, centripetal acceleration must also increase. Therefore, after a very long time, the limiting case would be that the tangential acceleration becomes very small and the acceleration points towards the centre of the circle (if the string that sustains the bob (just an example) can support the acceleration)!

Does centripetal acceleration change overtime?
 
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alingy1 said:
I'm thinking about this: what happens if a nonuniform circular motion goes on for a long time?

centripetal acceleration=tangential speed^2/r.

If there is an existent tangential acceleration: tangential speed increases. So, centripetal acceleration must also increase. Therefore, after a very long time, the limiting case would be that the tangential acceleration becomes very small and the acceleration points towards the centre of the circle (if the string that sustains the bob (just an example) can support the acceleration)!

Does centripetal acceleration change overtime?
For circular motion, the centripetal acceleration is always ω2r or v2/r . Tangential acceleration does not affect this, ever. This is because the tangent direction is always perpendicular to the radial direction.

AM
 
@Andrew Mason: Since it is w^2r, w is increasing because of tangential acceleration, so centripetal acceleration is also increasing no?
 
Yes it should increase.
If it doesn't, you get a spiral where the object gradually moves away from the center of the initial orbit.
 
alingy1 said:
@Andrew Mason: Since it is w^2r, w is increasing because of tangential acceleration, so centripetal acceleration is also increasing no?
It is the tangential speed and the radius, not the tangential acceleration, that determines the centripetal force for a body undergoing circular motion. Of course, a sustained tangential acceleration will affect tangential speed.

AM
 

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