Normal approximation to Poisson random variable

In other words, Y is a sum of ten independent Poisson random variables, each with mean 1000, so the mean of Y is 10000 but the variance is not 100 Var(X) but 100 Var(X) + 10000, which is 1010000.
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Homework Statement


Suppose that the number of asbestos particles in a sam-
ple of 1 squared centimeter of dust is a Poisson random variable
with a mean of 1000. What is the probability that 10 squared cen-
timeters of dust contains more than 10,000 particles?

Homework Equations


[tex] E(aX+b) = aE(X) + b[/tex]
[tex]Var(aX) = a^2 Var(X) [/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


Let X = number of asbestos particles in 1[itex]\mbox{cm}^2[/itex]. Define Y = number of asbestos particles in 10[itex]\mbox{ cm}^2[/itex]. So we have [itex]Y=10X[/itex]. Using the formula given above, we get [itex] E(Y)=10E(X)[/itex] and [itex]Var(Y) = 100 Var(X)[/itex]. But since X is a Poisson random variable, we have [itex]E(X) = \lambda = Var(X) = 1000[/itex]. So we get for Y variable, [itex]E(Y) = 10000[/itex] and [itex]Var(Y) = 100000[/itex]. Then the probability we need to find is [itex]P(Y > 10000)[/itex]. Now we use the Normal approximation here. [itex]E(Y) = 10000[/itex] and [itex]Var(Y) = 100000[/itex]. So [itex]P(Y \geq 10001.5)[/itex]. So we get the following expression
[tex]P\left(z \geq \frac{10001.5 - 10000}{\sqrt(100000)}\right)[/tex]
So now I use [itex]pnorm[/itex] function in [itex]R[/itex] , to calculate this probability. It is

[tex]\mbox{pnorm(10001.5, 10000, sqrt(100000), lower.tail=F)}[/tex]

which gives us [itex]0.4981077[/itex]. Is this right ? The solution manual for Montgomery and Runger says that [itex] E(Y) = \lambda = 10000 = Var(Y)[/itex]. Is that a mistake ?

thanks
 
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IssacNewton said:

Homework Statement


Suppose that the number of asbestos particles in a sam-
ple of 1 squared centimeter of dust is a Poisson random variable
with a mean of 1000. What is the probability that 10 squared cen-
timeters of dust contains more than 10,000 particles?

Homework Equations


[tex] E(aX+b) = aE(X) + b[/tex]
[tex]Var(aX) = a^2 Var(X) [/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


Let X = number of asbestos particles in 1[itex]\mbox{cm}^2[/itex]. Define Y = number of asbestos particles in 10[itex]\mbox{ cm}^2[/itex]. So we have [itex]Y=10X[/itex]. Using the formula given above, we get [itex] E(Y)=10E(X)[/itex] and [itex]Var(Y) = 100 Var(X)[/itex]. But since X is a Poisson random variable, we have [itex]E(X) = \lambda = Var(X) = 1000[/itex]. So we get for Y variable, [itex]E(Y) = 10000[/itex] and [itex]Var(Y) = 100000[/itex]. Then the probability we need to find is [itex]P(Y > 10000)[/itex]. Now we use the Normal approximation here. [itex]E(Y) = 10000[/itex] and [itex]Var(Y) = 100000[/itex]. So [itex]P(Y \geq 10001.5)[/itex]. So we get the following expression
[tex]P\left(z \geq \frac{10001.5 - 10000}{\sqrt(100000)}\right)[/tex]
So now I use [itex]pnorm[/itex] function in [itex]R[/itex] , to calculate this probability. It is

[tex]\mbox{pnorm(10001.5, 10000, sqrt(100000), lower.tail=F)}[/tex]

which gives us [itex]0.4981077[/itex]. Is this right ? The solution manual for Montgomery and Runger says that [itex] E(Y) = \lambda = 10000 = Var(Y)[/itex]. Is that a mistake ?

thanks

E(Y) = Var(Y) = 10000 are correct, Whether or not those are equal to λ depends on how you define λ.

The figure 0.498 is plausible. Since the mean is so large, the Poisson distribution looks very much like the normal, and you are asking for values greater than the mean by 0.01 standard deviations or more (so the answer ought to be just a bit less than 1/2).
 
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Hi Ray, But from the Y = 10X, we should have [itex]Var(Y) = 100 Var(X)[/itex].
 
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IssacNewton said:
Hi Ray, But from the Y = 10X, we should have [itex]Var(Y) = 100 Var(X)[/itex].

No. ##Y \neq 10X##. The ##10X## figure could be true only if each of the ten 1 cm2 pieces had exactly the same number of asbestos particles, so that 10 of them had exactly 10 times as many as the single one, and that would mean that there is no randomness at all. That does not describe your system.
 

1. What is the Normal approximation to Poisson random variable?

The Normal approximation to Poisson random variable is a statistical method used to estimate the probability of events occurring in a Poisson distribution. It assumes that the Poisson random variable can be approximated by a Normal distribution with the same mean and variance.

2. When is the Normal approximation to Poisson random variable used?

The Normal approximation to Poisson random variable is typically used when the number of events in a Poisson distribution is large (usually greater than 20) and the probability of each event occurring is small. This allows for the Normal distribution to closely approximate the Poisson distribution.

3. What is the formula for the Normal approximation to Poisson random variable?

The formula for the Normal approximation to Poisson random variable is: P(X = x) = (1/σ√2π) * e^(-(x-μ)^2/2σ^2), where μ is the mean and σ is the standard deviation of the Poisson distribution.

4. What are the limitations of the Normal approximation to Poisson random variable?

The Normal approximation to Poisson random variable is only accurate when the number of events is large and the probability of each event is small. If these conditions are not met, the approximation may not be accurate.

5. How do you know if the Normal approximation to Poisson random variable is appropriate for a given dataset?

In order to determine if the Normal approximation to Poisson random variable is appropriate for a given dataset, you can use the following criteria:

  • The number of events should be greater than 20.
  • The probability of each event should be less than 0.05.
  • The mean and standard deviation of the Poisson distribution should be known or estimated accurately.
If these criteria are met, then the Normal approximation to Poisson random variable can be used with reasonable accuracy.

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