Normal modes, 2 masses, 2 springs

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This discussion focuses on calculating the normal mode frequencies for a system consisting of two masses and two springs, characterized by spring constants k1 and k2. The equations of motion are derived as m&ddot;x = -k2x + k1(y-x) and m&ddot;y = -k1(y-x). The determinant condition leads to the frequency solutions α1,2 = 1/2[ (k2/m + 2k1/m) ± sqrt[(k2/m + 2k1/m)² - 4(k2k1/m²) ]]. The user seeks assistance with amplitude ratios and inquires about simpler equation-writing tools.

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hey, this is my first time using this forum and was wondering if i could have some help with this normal modes question.

suspended from a ceiling is in order: a spring of spring constant ([tex]k_{2}[/tex]), a mass (m), a spring with spring constant ([tex]k_{1}[/tex]), and another mass (m)

calulate the normal mode frequencies [tex]\alpha_{1}[/tex], [tex]\alpha_{1}[/tex] sorry can't find the omega symbol.

attempted solution:
let the displacement of the higher mass be x and the displacement of the lower mass be y.

m[tex]\ddot{x}[/tex]=-[tex]k_{2}[/tex]x + [tex]k_{1}[/tex](y-x)
m[tex]\ddot{y}[/tex]=-[tex]k_{1}[/tex](y-x)

[tex]\left| \alpha^{2} - (\frac{k_{2}}{m} + \frac{k_{1}}{m}) -----\frac{k_{1}}{m} \right|[/tex]
[tex]\left| \frac{k_{1}}{m} -------- \alpha^{2} - \frac{k_{1}}{m} \right|[/tex] = 0

determinant = 0

so [tex]\alpha^{2}[/tex] = 1/2[ ([tex]\frac{k_{2}}{m}[/tex]+ [tex]\frac{2k_{1}}{m}[/tex]) +- sqrt[([tex]\frac{k_{2}}{m}[/tex]+ [tex]\frac{2k_{1}}{m}[/tex])^2 – 4([tex]\frac{k_{2}*k_{1}}{m^2}[/tex])]]

after simplifying it doesn't work when I use to try and solve for the amplitude ratios.
please advise, thanks.
p.s. is there a simpler equation writer i could download and use here or should i just persevere and try to use this embedded one?
 
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Homework Equations m*\ddot{x} = -k_{2}*x + k_{1}(y-x)m*\ddot{y} = -k_{1}(y-x)The Attempt at a Solution let the displacement of the higher mass be x and the displacement of the lower mass be y.m\ddot{x}=-k_{2}x + k_{1}(y-x)m\ddot{y}=-k_{1}(y-x)\left| \alpha^{2} - (\frac{k_{2}}{m} + \frac{k_{1}}{m}) -----\frac{k_{1}}{m} \right|\left| \frac{k_{1}}{m} -------- \alpha^{2} - \frac{k_{1}}{m} \right| = 0determinant = 0so \alpha^{2} = 1/2[ (\frac{k_{2}}{m}+ \frac{2k_{1}}{m}) +- sqrt[(\frac{k_{2}}{m}+ \frac{2k_{1}}{m})^2 – 4(\frac{k_{2}*k_{1}}{m^2})]]\alpha_{1,2} = 1/2[ (\frac{k_{2}}{m}+ \frac{2k_{1}}{m}) +- sqrt[(\frac{k_{2}}{m}+ \frac{2k_{1}}{m})^2 – 4(\frac{k_{2}*k_{1}}{m^2})]]^{\frac{1}{2}}
 

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