Normal modes of electromagnetic field

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The discussion revolves around the properties of normal modes of the electromagnetic field within arbitrary cavities, exploring theoretical aspects, definitions of polarization, and the implications of cavity shape on field behavior.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant defines normal modes using the equations for electric and magnetic fields, noting that for any allowed value of frequency, there are typically three linearly independent solutions, which are reduced to two under certain conditions.
  • Another participant suggests that the orthogonality of E and B fields may depend on the cavity shape allowing for separation of coordinates in an orthogonal coordinate system.
  • Concerns are raised about the assumptions made when deriving wave equations, such as linear constitutive relations and the nature of the materials involved, which could affect the validity of the orthogonality of fields.
  • There is a mention of waveguide modes (TE, TM, and hybrid modes) potentially violating the initial results regarding field orthogonality.
  • Questions are posed about how polarization is defined in cases where the electromagnetic field solution lacks a well-defined direction of propagation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of cavity shape on field properties and the conditions under which E and B fields remain orthogonal. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the extension of properties from rectangular to arbitrary cavities and the definition of polarization in such contexts.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include assumptions about linearity and material homogeneity that may not hold in all cases, as well as the potential for non-orthogonal relationships between E, B, and propagation direction in certain configurations.

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Hey guys,

I'm trying to understand the properties of normal modes of the electromagnetic field inside an arbitrary cavity, but I'm having some trouble.

By definition, for a normal mode we have \mathbf{E}(\mathbf{x},t) = \mathbf{E}_0 (\mathbf{x}) e^{i \omega_1 t} and \mathbf{B}(\mathbf{x},t) = \mathbf{B}_0 (\mathbf{x}) e^{i \omega_2t}. It's easy to show that \omega_1 = \omega_2. Substituting these two equations into the wave equation gives the standard equation for the normal modes of a system, namely
\nabla^2 \mathbf{E}_0 + \frac{\omega^2}{c^2}\mathbf{E}_0 = 0
and
\nabla^2 \mathbf{B}_0 + \frac{\omega^2}{c^2}\mathbf{B}_0 = 0.

For any allowed value of \omega, there will be three linearly independent solutions to each of these equations -- unless we have degeneracy, of course. The conditions
\nabla \cdot \mathbf{E}_0 = 0
and
\nabla \cdot \mathbf{B}_0 = 0
reduce this number to two.

In the case of a rectangular cavity, it's easy to show that
1) the electric and magnetic fields are perpendicular; and
2) the two linearly independent solutions mentioned above correspond to the two possible polarization states.

My intuition tells me that these properties extend to the case of an arbitrarily shaped cavity, but I can't prove that they do. In particular, I'm not sure how polarization is defined if our electromagnetic field solution doesn't have a well-defined direction of propagation.

Any ideas?
 
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Thanks for the post! Sorry you aren't generating responses at the moment. Do you have any further information, come to any new conclusions or is it possible to reword the post?
 
I think the E and B fields will be orthogonal only if the cavity shape allows separation of coordinates in an orthogonal coordinate system.
Two independent solutions for E always corresponds to two different 'polarization states', but the polarization may not be as simple as plane or elliptical.
 
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dEdt said:
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My intuition tells me that these properties extend to the case of an arbitrarily shaped cavity, but I can't prove that they do. In particular, I'm not sure how polarization is defined if our electromagnetic field solution doesn't have a well-defined direction of propagation.

Waveguide modes (TE, TM, and hybrid modes) can violate your result. Also, when you derived the wave equations, you made some assumptions (for example, linear constitutive relations between E and D, B and H; homogeneous materials, dielectric materials...) that can be violated. To be sure, Ampere's and Faraday's law are always valid, but if you don't have plane wave solutions then E and B are not orthogonal to each other, and neither are orthogonal to the propagation direction.
 
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