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North Korea's recent long-range rocket launch ended in failure, breaking apart shortly after takeoff, which U.S. officials described as a setback for the country's propaganda efforts. The North American Aerospace Defense Command confirmed that the rocket's first stage fell into the sea, with subsequent stages also failing. There is speculation that North Korean citizens may be unaware of the launch's failure due to the regime's strict media control, leading to a belief that previous satellite launches were successful. The discussion highlights the irony of North Korea's situation, where the regime's attempts at showcasing power may ultimately lead to continued hardship for its people. Despite the failure, some argue that North Korea's efforts indicate they are progressing toward eventual success in missile development, as most nations that attempt satellite launches eventually succeed. The conversation reflects on the broader implications for U.S.-North Korea relations and the ongoing challenges faced by the North Korean populace amid extensive propaganda.
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PYONGYANG, North Korea -- North Korea's long-range rocket failed early Friday, U.S. officials said, calling it a blow for the reclusive state's propoganda efforts.

The rocket broke up about 90 seconds after taking off, an official told NBC News...

NORAD, the North American Aerospace Defense Command, said the rocket's first stage fell into the sea and two other stages failed.

Okay, we can go back to laughing at North Korea again.
 
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It is rather a downer for N Korea.
 
Evo said:
It is rather a downer for N Korea.

Not that their citizens are aware of it. They'll just say "what launch?"
 
mege said:
Not that their citizens are aware of it. They'll just say "what launch?"
True.
 
I have recently come under the impression that the public believes NK has already put satellites into orbit years ago.
 
I am glad, as we don't want the NKs having the ability to launch a long-range missile.
 
Pengwuino said:
I have recently come under the impression that the public believes NK has already put satellites into orbit years ago.

This is true, I toured a museum there and they had a large room filled with photos of "successful" "satellite" launches.
 
Was that museum built for North Koreans or was it built for you?
 
Pengwuino said:
http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/12/11168783-north-korea-rocket-breaks-up-after-much-touted-launch?lite

Okay, we can go back to laughing at North Korea again.
CNN said:
U.S.–North Korea relations recently enjoyed 16 optimistic days: between February 29, when Pyongyang signed the “Leap Day” arms control agreement with the United States, and March 16, when it announced plans to conduct the very kind of rocket launch that it had just forsworn.
http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/2012/04/12/why-north-korea-gets-away-with-it/?hpt=hp_t1

Who's laughing at who?

And here's what happens next: Over the next few weeks we will affirm for Baby Kim that like his father, he's the Most Powerful Man in the World (reclaiming the throne NK temporarily lost to Bashar Assad), dooming the North Korean people to two more generations of famine and poverty and South Koreans to two more generations of living in his shadow. Hilarious stuff.
 
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Pengwuino said:
http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/12/11168783-north-korea-rocket-breaks-up-after-much-touted-launch?lite



Okay, we can go back to laughing at North Korea again.

For a while. Most countries that try to launch a satellite (or develop an ICBM) eventually do succeed, with failures of actual launches indicating they're close enough that they're actually building some and rolling out some prototypes.

The fact that the first few attempts fail is like the fact that, the first time you try running the computer program you wrote, it will probably fail. It was at least close enough to being "final" that you had to run the entire program to see what happened.

The fact that they're attempting launches in the first place usually means they're getting close to a final product.

While "rocket science" is difficult, as in takes several years, I think it would be hard to find a country that reached the launch attempt stage without eventually succeeding.
 
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Depending on the mass of the payload and the type of orbit NK wants to achieve, it might be tough to launch from their latitude, even if they have sufficient thrust and modest mass.
 
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turbo said:
Depending on the mass of the payload and the type of orbit NK wants to achieve, it might be tough to launch from their latitude, even if they have sufficient thrust and modest mass.

Pssst! That wasn't really what they were trying to do!
 
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russ_watters said:
Was that museum built for North Koreans or was it built for you?

Good point. Probably built for tourists.
 
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The amount of $$ required for the launch attempt is about the same amount of $$ to feed the entire NK population for a year.

According to The Daily Focus (A South Korean internet based newspaper) - have no idea on its credibility though...
 
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Two dollar signs is how you begin and end a segment of LaTeX code. The stuff you wrote in the middle is interpreted as variables, not text.
 
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Greg Bernhardt said:
This is true, I toured a museum there and they had a large room filled with photos of "successful" "satellite" launches.
such a strange country
russ_watters said:
Who's laughing at who?

And here's what happens next: Over the next few weeks we will affirm for Baby Kim that like his father, he's the Most Powerful Man in the World (reclaiming the throne NK temporarily lost to Bashar Assad), dooming the North Korean people to two more generations of famine and poverty and South Koreans to two more generations of living in his shadow. Hilarious stuff.
Agreed. As strange as NK may be its common people are in a bad situation, it's even worse because of extensive propaganda and media control that means they probably don't even realize.
 
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