Nuclear backpack bomb, glow in the dark paint

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The discussion revolves around the potential use of glow in the dark paint, specifically whether tritium-based paint could increase the yield of a nuclear backpack bomb. Participants explore the implications of using different types of luminescent materials and their effects on nuclear detonation.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that tritium-based glow in the dark paint could potentially increase the yield of a backpack nuke due to the presence of fusion neutrons, although the extent of this increase is uncertain.
  • Others argue that the amount of tritium or any radioactive material in the paint would be negligible and outside the conditions necessary for fusion, thus having no impact on the yield.
  • One participant proposes that uranium, if present outside the bomb, might increase yield by being split by escaping neutrons, but emphasizes that a significant quantity would be required.
  • Another viewpoint is that the paint is more likely to be phosphorescent rather than tritium-based, suggesting a chemical glow rather than a radioactive one.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the potential effects of tritium-based paint on nuclear yield, with some asserting it could have an impact while others firmly reject this possibility. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the actual implications of using such materials.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the assumptions made about the quantities and conditions necessary for fusion, as well as the specific properties of the materials discussed. The discussion does not resolve the scientific feasibility of the claims made.

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Would tritium glow in the dark paint increase the yield of a backpack nuke?

"Glow in the dark paint was applied to the lock, so a soldier could unlock the miniature bomb in the dark".

I'm thinking that its unlikely 'glow in the dark paint' would be tritium based. More likely radium, which was used up to WWII for instrument dials etc. But I don't know. Backpack nukes are inefficient dial-a-yield devices that probably mess with the detonation sequence of the implosion to reduce yield. Having a bunch of fusion neutrons from tritium 'paint' would certainly increase yield, a little or a lot I don't know. Having tritium on the outside of the casing would limit the fusion effect, a thousandfold? Tritium boosting in the core might double the yield of a 20kt device to 40kt, basically giving you an extra 20kt. A thousand times less is 20 ton, if the backpack was dialled down to 10 ton yield but got an unexpected 20 ton fusion neutron boost, people might be surprised.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Special_Atomic_Demolition_Munition_(SADM).webm

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Jeremy Thomson said:
Summary:: Would tritium glow in the dark paint increase the yield of a backpack nuke?

Having a bunch of fusion neutrons from tritium 'paint' would certainly increase yield, a little or a lot I don't know

Unless you can provide credible links to good info, I seriously doubt that it would happen
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Having tritium on the outside of the casing would limit the fusion effect, a thousandfold? Tritium boosting in the core might double the yield of a 20kt device to 40kt, basically giving you an extra 20kt. A thousand times less is 20 ton, if the backpack was dialled down to 10 ton yield but got an unexpected 20 ton fusion neutron boost, people might be surprised.

You are just making up numbers. I don't see any scientific possibility of a small region of a thin paint layer
having any effect what-so-ever

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The amount of tritium, radium, or whatever is used in the paint is completely negligible, and it is outside the area where the conditions are right for fusion anyway. Tritium outside has zero impact on the yield.

Uranium outside might increase the yield as it can be split by neutrons escaping from the core, but you would need a relevant quantity of it.
 
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I would be doubting that it would be Tritium based anyway. Much more likely to be the much easier phosphorescent type paint. This is a chemical that, when exposed to near-ultraviolet, will glow softly for some hours afterward.
 

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