Nullspace of a square matrix A and A^2 are related?

Click For Summary
The discussion revolves around the relationship between the nullspace of a square matrix A and its square A^2. It is established that if x is in the nullspace of A, then x is also in the nullspace of A^2, confirming statement a as true. However, for statement b, it is highlighted that if x is in the nullspace of A^2, it does not necessarily imply that x is in the nullspace of A, particularly when A has a determinant of zero. A counterexample is provided using a specific 2x2 matrix where A^2 results in a zero matrix while A itself is not zero, demonstrating that the nullspace of A^2 can contain more solutions than that of A. This clarifies the relationship between the nullspaces and the conditions under which they may differ.
brownman
Messages
13
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement


Say that A is a square matrix. Show that the following statements are true, or give a counter example:
a) If x is in the nullspace of A, then x is in the nullspace of A2
b) If x is in the nullspace of A2, the x is in the nullspace of A.


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



I solved part a, or maybe I didn't. I said

"Ax=0 is our assumption.
A2x = A*Ax = A(0) = 0
so statement a is true."

However, for part b, I stated:

"A2x=0 is our assumption.
Let B=A2, so Bx=0 is true.
A*Ax = 0

We have no way of knowing if Ax is true yet.
However if we left multiply by the inverse of A,
we can see that Ax=0. Therefore the statement
b is true unless the determinant of A is zero,
and the inverse does not exist."

However, when trying any and all matrices, some with and some without a determinant equal to zero, and finding the nullspace of the matrix squared and checking it with the original matrix, it always returns a matrix of zero. Ideas? Thanks in advance.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
brownman said:

Homework Statement


Say that A is a square matrix. Show that the following statements are true, or give a counter example:
a) If x is in the nullspace of A, then x is in the nullspace of A2
b) If x is in the nullspace of A2, the x is in the nullspace of A.


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



I solved part a, or maybe I didn't. I said

"Ax=0 is our assumption.
A2x = A*Ax = A(0) = 0
so statement a is true."

However, for part b, I stated:

"A2x=0 is our assumption.
Let B=A2, so Bx=0 is true.
A*Ax = 0

We have no way of knowing if Ax is true yet.
However if we left multiply by the inverse of A,
we can see that Ax=0. Therefore the statement
b is true unless the determinant of A is zero,
and the inverse does not exist."

However, when trying any and all matrices, some with and some without a determinant equal to zero, and finding the nullspace of the matrix squared and checking it with the original matrix, it always returns a matrix of zero. Ideas? Thanks in advance.

Part a looks fine.
Part b - see if you can find a matrix A (2 x 2 is fine) such that A2 = 0, even though A ≠ 0.
 
Oh... Okay I get it now.

If I use the matrix

0 0
0 1 = A and

0 0
0 0 = A2

The nullspace of A2 has infinite solutions
and the nullspace of A will have at least one x value
that will have to be zero in order for it to be a valid
equation, so the A2 nullspace can not
transfer over.

Thanks :)
 
Question: A clock's minute hand has length 4 and its hour hand has length 3. What is the distance between the tips at the moment when it is increasing most rapidly?(Putnam Exam Question) Answer: Making assumption that both the hands moves at constant angular velocities, the answer is ## \sqrt{7} .## But don't you think this assumption is somewhat doubtful and wrong?

Similar threads

Replies
8
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 24 ·
Replies
24
Views
4K
  • · Replies 15 ·
Replies
15
Views
2K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
1K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
26K
Replies
10
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
3K