Number of Wavelengths Emitted from Excited Atomic Hydrogen Level 4

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The problem involves determining the number of different wavelengths of electromagnetic radiation emitted when atomic hydrogen is excited to level 4. The context is based on transitions between energy levels in atomic physics.

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the number of wavelengths by considering transitions from level 4 to lower levels, initially concluding there are 10 wavelengths. Some participants question this conclusion and suggest a recount of the transitions.

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Participants are actively discussing the calculation of wavelengths, with some providing a formula for determining the number of transitions. There is a recognition of differing interpretations regarding the counting of wavelengths emitted during transitions.

Contextual Notes

There appears to be confusion regarding the counting of wavelengths, with references to specific transitions and the potential for double counting in the original poster's reasoning.

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Homework Statement


hi
i came across this problem on an aqa physics a past question.

How many different wavelengths of electromagnetic radiation can be emitted after
atomic hydrogen is excited to level 4?



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The Attempt at a Solution


i was looking at transitions from level 4 to the ground. i obtained 10 but the answer suggested 6. this was my conclusion;
from level 4 (4 wavengths. this was calculating from 4 to 3, 4 to 2, 4 to 1 etc)
i calculated in this manner for level 3 to the ground, 2 to the ground state etc.
can someone kindly clarify where i am going wrong?
thanks
 
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How did you get 10? Count again?
 
The formula for it is n(n-1)/2 where 'n' is the energy level from where it is excited.
You can derive it using Combinations.
 
aurao2003 said:
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from level 4 (4 wavengths. this was calculating from 4 to 3, 4 to 2, 4 to 1 etc)
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You have only listed 3 wavelengths, not 4:
4→3
4→2
4→1​
 
aurao2003 said:

Homework Statement


hi
i came across this problem on an aqa physics a past question.

How many different wavelengths of electromagnetic radiation can be emitted after
atomic hydrogen is excited to level 4?

Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution


i was looking at transitions from level 4 to the ground. i obtained 10 but the answer suggested 6. this was my conclusion;
from level 4 (4 wavelengths. this was calculating from 4 to 3, 4 to 2, 4 to 1 etc)
i calculated in this manner for level 3 to the ground, 2 to the ground state etc.
can someone kindly clarify where i am going wrong?
thanks
A hydrogen atom excited to level 4 may transition to the ground state by emitting radiation by any of the following 4 schemes. \displaystyle \lambda_{\,i\,\to 1} is the wavelength emitted as the atom transitions from level i to level j.

\displaystyle \lambda_{\,4\,\to 1}
\displaystyle \lambda_{\,4\,\to 2} followed by \displaystyle \lambda_{\,2\,\to 1}
\displaystyle \lambda_{\,4\,\to 3} followed by \displaystyle \lambda_{\,3\,\to 1}
\displaystyle \lambda_{\,4\,\to 3} followed by \displaystyle \lambda_{\,3\,\to 2} followed by \displaystyle \lambda_{\,2\,\to 1}

\displaystyle \lambda_{\,4\,\to 3} and \displaystyle \lambda_{\,2\,\to 1}, each appear twice in the above. Therefore, there are six different wavelengths which may be emitted.

They are: \displaystyle \lambda_{\,4\,\to 1},\ \lambda_{\,4\,\to 2},\ \lambda_{\,4\,\to 3},\ \lambda_{\,3\,\to 1},\ \lambda_{\,3\,\to 2},\ \lambda_{\,2\,\to 1}


 
thanks a lot everyone. its clear now!
 

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