Number theory GCD relatively prime question

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The problem involves number theory, specifically focusing on the greatest common divisor (GCD) and the concept of relative primality. The original poster is tasked with showing that if \( m \) and \( n \) divide \( d \) and \( \text{gcd}(m,n) = 1 \), then \( mn \) also divides \( d \).

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the implications of the GCD condition and explore the relationships between the prime factorizations of \( m \), \( n \), and \( d \). There are attempts to manipulate equations involving \( d \), \( m \), and \( n \) to derive conclusions. Some participants express confusion and seek clarification on the reasoning behind the divisibility of \( mn \) in relation to \( d \).

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing hints and suggestions for approaching the problem. Some have indicated that they found certain hints helpful, while others are still grappling with the concepts involved. There is a mix of interpretations and methods being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of understanding prime factorization and the implications of the GCD condition, but there are concerns about potential misunderstandings regarding the relationship between the factors and their contributions to \( d \).

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Homework Statement


let m|d, n|d and gcd(m,n) = 1. show mn|d

Homework Equations


gcd(m,n) = d = mx + ny for x and y in integers

The Attempt at a Solution


d = mr
d = ns
1 = mx + ny
1 = (d/r)x + (d/s)y
I don't know, a bit lost, just moving stuff around and not making any real progress. Any tips?
 
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PsychonautQQ said:

Homework Statement


let m|d, n|d and gcd(m,n) = 1. show mn|d

Homework Equations


gcd(m,n) = d = mx + ny for x and y in integers

The Attempt at a Solution


d = mr
d = ns
1 = mx + ny
1 = (d/r)x + (d/s)y
I don't know, a bit lost, just moving stuff around and not making any real progress. Any tips?

Have you tried thinking about some of these problems in terms of the prime factorizations of m, n and d?
 
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PsychonautQQ said:
d = mr
d = ns
1 = mx + ny
So far so good. These three equations are all you need. Hint for the next step: try multiplying the last equation by ##d##.
 
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Dick said:
Have you tried thinking about some of these problems in terms of the prime factorizations of m, n and d?
I have not tried thinking about this way. If n|d and m|d, we know that m and n each contain at least one prime that is also in the prime factorization of d. However, this does not mean we can conclude that mn|d does it? What if the only common prime in the factorization of m, n, and d is p, that would mean mn contains p^2 which wouldn't divide d's lone p.

Am I missing something?
 
PsychonautQQ said:
I have not tried thinking about this way. If n|d and m|d, we know that m and n each contain at least one prime that is also in the prime factorization of d. However, this does not mean we can conclude that mn|d does it? What if the only common prime in the factorization of m, n, and d is p, that would mean mn contains p^2 which wouldn't divide d's lone p.

Am I missing something?

The idea is that if gcd(m,n)=1 then m and n have no prime factor in common. Do you see how the proof would go from there? Proving it with jbunniii's hint is actually easier to write down. I just find it easier to think in terms of prime factors.
 
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Yeah, I solved it with regards to jbunnii's hint, wish I would have seen it myself >.<. Right, gcd(m,n) = 1 so they each have a unique prime that divides d, so nm|d. Thanks man, I I appreciate ya'll being so patient with me.
 

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