Numerical solution to SE - variational method, many electrons

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The forum discussion focuses on using the Variational Method (VM) to find the electron wavefunction in a system with two electrons within an infinitely deep square quantum well. The proposed procedure involves first determining the ground state wavefunction without electrons, then modifying the potential to account for the presence of one electron, and finally calculating the new ground state wavefunction for the second electron. The discussion highlights the limitation of this approach, as it does not consider the mutual influence between the two electrons, which could significantly impact the accuracy of the results. The Hartree-Fock method is recommended as a more comprehensive alternative for addressing such quantum chemistry problems.

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Hi everyone,

I am trying to find electron wavefunction of a system I am working in. Numerical method I choose is the Variational method (VM). This method is convenient to find the ground state of the system. More details are available here.

Problem I have can be explained on a very simple system like an infinitely deep square quantum well, U_0 .

Let's say we have two electrons, and we are thinking how the wavefunction of the electron in the higher state looks like. We would also like to take into account electric potential these two electrons have on each other.

Now my question is, would the following procedure make sense:

1. we first find the ground state and its wavefunction with the VM of the infinite well with no electrons, E_1 and \psi_1 .
2. then we "fill" that state with an electron.
3. we now have a new "structure" which consists of a quantum well plus the electron. We construct a new potential U_{new}=U_0-e|\psi_1|^2.
4. then we find the ground state and its wavefunction, E_2 and \psi_2, which corresponds to the potential U_{new}.

What do you think, does \psi_2 corresponds to the real value of the wavefunction of the second electron?

I understand that in this procedure it is only taken into account influence of the first electron to the second, and there is no influence of the second electron to the first. This is a clear drawback of this procedure, but I cannot estimate if this would be a big problem or not.

Is there anyone who has experience with this kind of problems? I assume this is a routine problem in quantum chemistry.
 
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You should look up "Hartree-Fock" method. There are many programs, also freely available to solve quantum chemical problems, so there is no need to program it yourself.
 

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