O-ring Selection: Chemical & Thermal Resistance

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the selection of O-rings, particularly focusing on their chemical and thermal resistance properties. Participants share insights and resources relevant to the oil and gas industry, where the proper choice of O-rings is critical for operational safety and efficiency.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest starting with online resources for O-ring specifications and materials, including links to supplier websites.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of contacting O-ring suppliers directly to obtain tailored recommendations based on specific service conditions, including chemical exposure and operating parameters.
  • Another participant notes that simply specifying "good chemical and thermal resistance" is insufficient without detailed information on temperature ranges and specific chemicals involved.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential for catastrophic failures due to improper specification, particularly with highly reactive chemicals.
  • One participant highlights the need for understanding the scale and context of the application, mentioning that O-rings come in various sizes and applications, which can affect performance.
  • A suggestion is made to explore alternative sealing solutions that do not rely on O-rings, indicating a broader approach to problem-solving.
  • A later reply mentions a specific manufacturer, TRP Polymer Solutions, that provides custom O-rings made from Perfluoroelastomer, which met the requirements of the original poster's colleague.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the best approach to selecting O-rings, with no consensus on a single method or solution. Some emphasize the importance of detailed specifications, while others suggest general resources and contacts.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the need for specific chemical compatibility information and the potential for misunderstanding the requirements of the application. Participants note that the discussion does not resolve the complexities involved in O-ring selection.

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Hey guys,

First time poster here with a problem regarding O-rings.

I'm currently working in the oil and gas industry on an intern basis and my employer is having issues with their O-rings. This isn't a particular area of mine as I want to help out a colleague, but I'm keen to impress them both with some outside knowledge.

I do know that she's on the lookout for O-rings with good chemical and thermal resistance so any advice you can offer would be great.

Thanks
 
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GuruOfManufacturing said:
Hey guys,

First time poster here with a problem regarding O-rings.

I'm currently working in the oil and gas industry on an intern basis and my employer is having issues with their O-rings. This isn't a particular area of mine as I want to help out a colleague, but I'm keen to impress them both with some outside knowledge.

I do know that she's on the lookout for O-rings with good chemical and thermal resistance so any advice you can offer would be great.

Thanks
Try Google.
 
PS Learn the terms in those documents , familiarize yourself with how to measure o-rings.

GuruOfManufacturing said:
I do know that she's

good luck. She'll appreciate your efforts I'm sure.
 
Contact an o-ring supplier directly for the type of information you are seeking. They will ask for all of the elements of the service including the chemical details and the service details such as operating pressure temperature, etc. Parker is major international supplier who, I have used for seals and o-rings for petrochemical and petroleum services for many years . If you go to the below site you will find a listing of the different o-ring materials and their specifications; however, this online technical document is not sufficient for getting recommendations for your plants specific service, particularly if there are already o-ring compatibility problems, so contact them directly

http://ph.parker.com/us/en/seals-and-o-rings
 
Specifying "good chemical and thermal resistance" isn't adequate for specifying elastomers in service. You will need to specify actual temperature ranges, and the specific chemical(s) the o-ring will be exposed to.

Improper specification related to the chemical compatibility can result in potentially catastrophic failures. This can extend beyond things like leaks. They can react with the chemical they are sealing against. Most of the time this is a non-issue, but serious care needs to be taken with highly reactive chemicals. Specification may even include the acceptable lubricants that may be present on o-rings.

For unusual chemicals, in addition to what JBA has stated above, you can go to the chemicals' manufacturer (preferably the one you buy from), and they should be able to give you gasket, O-ring, piping, valve, etc.. recommendations for compatibility.
 
GuruOfManufacturing said:
I'm currently working in the oil and gas industry on an intern basis and my employer is having issues with their O-rings.
O-rings come in different sizes. Some instruments seal shaft glands with OD=1mm o-rings, while the Space Shuttle SRB gave problems on cold mornings with slightly larger o-rings.
You need to give some idea of scale, pressure, temperature and chemistry.

GuruOfManufacturing said:
I do know that she's on the lookout for O-rings with good chemical and thermal resistance so any advice you can offer would be great.
An engineer rapidly reduces a problem to a solution by narrowing the material selection criteria. An outsider will get more credibility from NOT throwing information into that pool before they understand the problem and the constraints on solutions.

When you feel the need to impress, step backwards and assess the implications of failure.
Many young impulsive men, with risk-taking immature brains, kill themselves and others trying to impress women.
If you really want to impress, search for all outside-the-box solutions that do not need to use o-rings.
 
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Thanks guys for the great suggestions! I ended up coming across a customer rubber manufacturer online called TRP Polymer Solutions who were able to help with what my colleague needed. They manufacture custom O-rings made from Perfluoroelastomer which helped with the chemical and thermal resistance qualities she required.

https://trp.co.uk/products/high-performance-elastomer-o-rings/
 

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