High School Object A is moving relative to O , what does it mean?

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The discussion clarifies the concept of relative motion in special relativity, specifically how to determine the velocity of one object relative to another. It emphasizes that the relative speed of object A to observer O is defined by the change in A's position over time as measured in O's coordinate system, which can be quantified as 0.5c in this case. The velocity addition formula is mentioned, but the focus is on understanding that relative motion is invariant across inertial frames. It is crucial to differentiate between relative velocity and closing or separation velocity when using different frames of reference. Overall, the key takeaway is that relative motion is about how positions change over time in a specific observer's coordinate system.
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since i am new at learning special relativity, i still miss the concept about how thing move in special relativity. In high school, i am doing several problem about velocity addition, and that word always appear. for example:
A is moving with velocity vAO relative to O, and B is moving with velocity vBO relative to O, what is A velocity relative to B?
and then i am using formula
VAB=(VAO+VOB)/(1+VAO.VOB/c2)
and then you get the answer
but i can't really understand it. So i try to draw it
(in this image, i just draw object O and A (without B), so i can understand what VAO really mean)
(let say that A is traveling 0.5c from our viewpoint)
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so, VAO will be 1/3 c because O see A only travel 1.5x108m after 1.5 second (or 3x108m after 3 second), is this what we say A is moving relative to O?
 
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diazdaiz said:
is this what we say A is moving relative to O?
No, A moving relative to O means that the position of A as measured by O (in O's coordinate system) changes over time. The relative speed ##V_{OA}## is the change in A's position ##\Delta x## over the interval of time ##\Delta t## (as measured in O's coordinates), and in your diagram it's just 0.5c. Nothing to do with what O sees (i.e. light from A reaching O).
 
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Vitro said:
No, A moving relative to O means that the position of A as measured by O (in O's coordinate system) changes over time. The relative speed ##V_{OA}## is the change in A's position ##\Delta x## over the interval of time ##\Delta t## (as measured in O's coordinates), and in your diagram it's just 0.5c. Nothing to do with what O sees (i.e. light from A reaching O).
thank you very much, that's the keyword, its measured from O's coordinate
 
diazdaiz said:
thank you very much, that's the keyword, its measured from O's coordinate
The fact that A and O are moving relative to each other is invariant, you could use any inertial frame to make that determination. But if you want to measure their relative velocity then you need to use either A's or O's coordinates. Using a different frame of reference will give you what's called a closing or separation velocity which is not the same thing as their relative velocity.
 
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