Objects approaching one another with uniform acceleration

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving two individuals accelerating towards each other from rest, initially 48 meters apart. The problem seeks to determine the time until they collide and the distance traveled by the first individual at the moment of collision.

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  • Participants explore the setup of the equations of motion for both individuals, questioning the conditions under which they collide. Some suggest rearranging terms to form a quadratic equation, while others propose considering relative acceleration to simplify the problem.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing different perspectives on the collision conditions and the setup of the equations. There is acknowledgment of the original poster's approach, though some participants express differing views on the interpretation of the collision point.

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Participants are navigating the implications of acceleration directions and the definitions of displacement in relation to the collision point. There is a focus on ensuring clarity in the equations used to represent the motion of both individuals.

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Homework Statement


persons 1 & 2 are initially at rest (vi=0m/s) 48m (d) apart. they then run towards each other at constant accelerations
person 1 acceleration = 0.50m/s2
person 2 acceleration = 0.30m/s2

how long until they reach each other/collide (t)?
at the instant they collide, how far has object one gone (xf1)?

for convenience, we will place the origin at the starting point of the first object
where d=+48m is the initial position of the second object

Homework Equations


x1=1/2a1t2
x2=d+1/2a2t2

when x1 = x2, the players collide at time t = t1 = t2

The Attempt at a Solution


1/2a1t2 = d + 1/2a2t2

note that a1 = +0.50m/s2, while a2=-0.30m/s2 since the first person accelerates in the +x direction and the second person in the -x direction

how to solve for t?
 
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Hello Nick, ##\qquad##:welcome:

You bring all terms involving t to one side and all known terms to the other side of the = sign.

It seems to me you are so intimidated by the expression that you don't recognize it as a simple quadratic equation. Unnecessary!
 
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The persons do not collide when x1=x2. I would let x1=d and x2 =48-d.

But simplest would be to consider the relative acceleration in which case simply use d=48m for determination of t after which the respective distances should be straightforward.
 
neilparker62 said:
The persons do not collide when x1=x2
Yes they do.
 
BvU said:
Yes they do.
True enough - the vector displacements from common reference point must be the same and so apologies to the OP who set up his equations correctly. I was thinking in terms of the scalar distances from separate starting points to the collision point.
 
ThatGuyNick said:

Homework Statement


persons 1 & 2 are initially at rest (vi=0m/s) 48m (d) apart. they then run towards each other at constant accelerations
person 1 acceleration = 0.50m/s2
person 2 acceleration = 0.30m/s2

how long until they reach each other/collide (t)?
at the instant they collide, how far has object one gone (xf1)?

for convenience, we will place the origin at the starting point of the first object
where d=+48m is the initial position of the second object

Homework Equations


x1=1/2a1t2
x2=d+1/2a2t2

when x1 = x2, the players collide at time t = t1 = t2

The Attempt at a Solution


1/2a1t2 = d + 1/2a2t2

note that a1 = +0.50m/s2, while a2=-0.30m/s2 since the first person accelerates in the +x direction and the second person in the -x direction

how to solve for t?
If you write ##t^2 = S##, your equation becomes ##0.25 S = 48 - 0.15 S.## Can you figure out how to get ##S?##
 

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