Objects with Constrained Rotation.

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This discussion centers on the constraints of object rotation in 3D space, specifically addressing the impossibility of constraining an object to rotate in only two planes while restricting it from a third. The conversation highlights the use of geometric algebra's bivectors to explain these rotational planes. A practical example is provided involving a sphere with a rod and a ring, illustrating how rotation can be limited to specific planes. Additionally, references to mechanical joints such as ellipsoid and saddle joints are made, emphasizing their relevance in understanding constrained rotations.

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  • Familiarity with mechanical joints, specifically ellipsoid and saddle joints
  • Knowledge of rotational dynamics in three-dimensional space
  • Basic concepts of kinematics and constraints in mechanical systems
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Here in 3D one may either have an object constrained to rotate only in a single plane or have a freely rotating object that can rotate in any combination of the three planes. But not exactly two planes. True?
Here in 3D one may either have an object constrained to rotate only in a single plane or have a freely rotating object that can rotate in any combination of the three planes. It seems to me that you can't have an object constrained to rotate in only combinations of two planes. You can't have something free to rotate in axy + byz but not in axy + byz + cxz. But I don't know how to prove that so maybe this isn't true. Mechanical only : no electronics. Little help?

Note: those planes are the bivectors of geometric algebra. This uses planes of rotation, which are the complements of axises of rotation. But I believe reader who prefer other notation will get the idea.
 
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Aha now I see it. Have a sphere with a rod through the center protruding from the north and south poles. Have a ring that's larger than the sphere with a slot on the inner edge. Put the ends of the rod in the slot. If the ring is in the yz plane then the rotational plane of the sphere can have any combination of the xy and xz planes but no element of the yz plane.
 
Doesn't this work as you expect?

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I also found an "ellipsoid" joint:

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Or the "saddle" joint:

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These are the kinds of joints you find in your articulations, like your wrists and fingers (you can look up condyloid joint):

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