Oceans Found to Absorb Half of All Man-Made Carbon Dioxide

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The discussion centers on the role of the world's oceans in absorbing carbon dioxide produced by humans since the industrial revolution, including its implications for marine life and the global carbon cycle. Participants explore the effects of this absorption on ocean chemistry, marine ecosystems, and the broader climate context.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants highlight that oceans have absorbed approximately half of all man-made carbon dioxide, which has slowed global warming but has adverse effects on marine life.
  • Others express skepticism about the implications of this absorption, suggesting that previous studies may have overlooked critical details about the carbon cycle and its buffering effects.
  • One participant questions the balance of carbon dioxide absorption between oceans and forests, proposing that deforestation may play a significant role in the overall carbon levels.
  • Concerns are raised about the changing ocean chemistry affecting the growth of plankton and corals, which are vital to the marine food chain.
  • Some participants reference historical events to argue that the ocean's chemical balance can restore itself over time, suggesting a cyclical nature to carbon dioxide levels.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views, with some agreeing on the basic facts of ocean absorption while others contest the implications and interpretations of these findings. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the long-term effects on marine ecosystems and the carbon cycle.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include assumptions about the carbon cycle's dynamics, the impact of deforestation, and the specific ratios of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere versus the oceans, which remain unclear.

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Around half of all carbon dioxide produced by humans since the industrial revolution has dissolved into the world's oceans—with adverse effects for marine life—according to two new studies.
Scientists who undertook the first comprehensive look at ocean storage of carbon dioxide found that the world's oceans serve as a massive sink that traps the greenhouse gas. [continued]

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/07/0715_040715_oceancarbon.html
 
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I should have included this in the original quote
The researchers say the oceans' removal of the carbon dioxide from Earth's atmosphere has slowed global warming.

But in a second, related study, scientists say the sink effect is now changing ocean chemistry. The resulting change has slowed growth of plankton, corals, and other invertebrates that serve as the most basic level of the ocean food chain. The impacts on marine life could be severe, scientists say.

No free rides?
 
Well it seems that the alarmists and the publishers have their free rides again. GMAB

How convenient that the global warmists overlooked that tiny but well known detail in the general global carbon cycle a decade or so ago, then they could use it to offer their scary scenarios, now they can use it for their retreat now, as apparently the global warming has stopped .

Any idea what the ratio between CO2 in the air and in the ocean water is and what numbers we are talking about? I'll check later. Maxed out at the moment.

Then there is the chemical buffer effect, more CO2 dissolves more limestone that brings the pH back up again. Balance will be restored quickly. It has happened many times in the past with much more catastrophic pH changes like the clathrate gun 55 million years ago.

Perhaps somebody remembers at last that carbon dioxide is going around in a cycle. If the flux in one part of the cycle increases, eventually the whole cycle will speed up preventing accumulation. The carbon in the sea will help restore biomass (after emptying the oceans with fishing) and eventually it will end up as clathrate, waiting for the next explosion to restart the cycle.

But in the mean time we could amuse ourselves by counting the errors in that article.
 
As a counter this time, I'd recommend this paper:

http://www.uoguelph.ca/~rmckitri/research/econ-persp.pdf
 
question

If carbon dioxide produced by humans since the industrial revolution has dissolved into the world's oceans, has the other half been consumed by forests, since the level has only slighly been modified and the increase seems to be due to deforestation?
 

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