Odd/even function and critical points

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The function f(x) = 3x^{2/3}(5-x) is debated as even or neither due to the (5-x) factor. The domain is considered all real numbers, but the derivative 10x^{-1/3}-5x^{2/3} is undefined at x=0, creating confusion about critical points. Critical points are found where the derivative equals zero or is undefined, leading to x=2 and x=0 as critical points. Rearranging the derivative does not resolve the issue of being undefined at x=0, highlighting complexities with fractional exponents for negative numbers. The discussion emphasizes the importance of understanding these mathematical nuances in calculus.
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Homework Statement
##f(x) = 3x^{2/3}(5-x)##

Identify domain of ##f(x)## and is it odd or even or neither ?
Find the critical points of f(x)
Relevant Equations
Even function f(x) = f(-x) , odd function f(x) = -f(-x)
Critical points have the 1st derivative equal to zero
I have ##3x^{2/3}## as an even function although there is some debate as to this in another thread I started but the (5-x) factor means the function is neither odd or even. I also see the domain as all real numbers. Hopefully this is right ?
To find the critical points I differentiate f(x) to get ##10x^{-1/3}-5x^{2/3}## and set this equal to zero to get the critical points.
I can get the critical point of x=2 from this. The answer also states that x=0 is a critical point. This is the bit that confuses me.
As it stands ##10x^{-1/3}-5x^{2/3}## is not defined at x=0 but if I rearrange it as ##5x(2x^{-4/3}-x^{-1/3})## I get both critical values of x=0 and x=2.
How can the same equation be defined and not defined at the same time ? Without knowing the answer how would I know to rearrange the equation to get x=0 as an answer ?
Thanks
 
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dyn said:
Homework Statement: ##f(x) = 3x^{2/3}(5-x)##

Identify domain of ##f(x)## and is it odd or even or neither ?
Find the critical points of f(x)
Homework Equations: Even function f(x) = f(-x) , odd function f(x) = -f(-x)
Critical points have the 1st derivative equal to zero

I have ##3x^{2/3}## as an even function although there is some debate as to this in another thread I started
I don't think there is any debate about this being an even function.
dyn said:
but the (5-x) factor means the function is neither odd or even. I also see the domain as all real numbers. Hopefully this is right ?
To find the critical points I differentiate f(x) to get ##10x^{-1/3}-5x^{2/3}## and set this equal to zero to get the critical points.
I can get the critical point of x=2 from this. The answer also states that x=0 is a critical point. This is the bit that confuses me.
As it stands ##10x^{-1/3}-5x^{2/3}## is not defined at x=0 but if I rearrange it as ##5x(2x^{-4/3}-x^{-1/3})## I get both critical values of x=0 and x=2.
The second expression isn't defined at x = 0, either, as ##x^{-1/3}## isn't defined for this value.
dyn said:
How can the same equation be defined and not defined at the same time ? Without knowing the answer how would I know to rearrange the equation to get x=0 as an answer ?
Thanks
Critical points are where the derivative is 0, or at points in the domain of the function at which the derivative is undefined.
 
But if I re-arrange the equation I can get a function defined for all ##x## which gives ##x=0## as an answer
 
dyn said:
But if I re-arrange the equation I can get a function defined for all ##x## which gives ##x=0## as an answer
No. I assume you are talking about this: ##5x(2x^{-4/3}-x^{-1/3})##, which is undefined for x = 0. It's true that 5x = 0 when x = 0, but the other factor isn't defined, which makes the whole expression (it's not an equation) undefined.

Regarding what you wrote at the end of the other thread, ##x^{1/3} = x^{2/6}##, obviously. The problem comes with the latter expression if you try to evaluate it as ##\left( x^{1/6}\right)^2## for negative x. What this shows, in my view, is that the usual rules for exponents don't carry through when you raise negative numbers to some fractional power.
 
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Thank you Mark44 for your help. As I have previously mentioned in the other thread , it amazes me that the fractional indices for negative real numbers issue seems never mentioned in calculus of real numbers
 
Question: A clock's minute hand has length 4 and its hour hand has length 3. What is the distance between the tips at the moment when it is increasing most rapidly?(Putnam Exam Question) Answer: Making assumption that both the hands moves at constant angular velocities, the answer is ## \sqrt{7} .## But don't you think this assumption is somewhat doubtful and wrong?

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