Old Fender Rhodes electric piano

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The discussion centers on the restoration of an old Fender Rhodes electric piano, specifically addressing the stereo pan circuit that utilizes a flip-flop oscillator driving two 2N3053 transistors (replaced with NTE 128s) to control light bulbs for panning audio signals. The user reports a popping sound when the light bulbs turn off and has implemented two 68µF capacitors to mitigate this issue, which has significantly reduced the noise. The conversation explores the safety and effectiveness of using higher capacitance values and the type of capacitors (polarized vs. non-polarized) suitable for this application.

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Hello everyone! I have an old Fender Rhodes electric piano I am rebuilding and I have a question. It uses a stereo pan circuit which pans the signal back and forth between the left and right amplifiers. It does this with a simple oscillator circuit that drives two 2N3053 transistors (now replaced with NTE 128's) that switch two light bulbs back and forth which then control each channel via a photo-cell. When the light bulbs get switched OFF, you get a bit of a pop each time. This results in a slight popping or thumping that pans back and forth when the light bulbs turn off. I put 2 68uf capacitors between the collectors and emitters of the 2n3053's and this helped a lot. The popping is hardly noticeable. I am wondering if A) is that safe to put those caps there, and B) if so, can I put in a higher uf cap to completely rid of the pop. I am wondering if this is safe for those transistors. Also, should I be using polarized or non-polarized electrolytics Thanks everyone!

P.S. Here is a schematic of the entire pre-amplifier with the vibrato circuit: http://www.fenderrhodes.com/org/manual/index2.html
 
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Very Sorry, I thought that was a direct link to the schematic. To get to the schematic, click on "schematics" and it is Fig 11-8 "Pre-amp for 80 Watt suitcase and super satellite."
 


i don't see any reason it would hurt the 2N3053 transistors (that are driving the light bulbs). it would cause a little reactive load to the transistors in the flip-flop oscillator that is driving the 2N3053s. it will reduce the amplitude of the vibrato for faster vibrato as you increase the capacitance. you could put a resistor between the caps and the bases of the transistors to maybe round out the vibrato waveform a little. that may or may not be desirable. you have to listen to it to see.

i'm more of a DSP guy now, but long ago, in another life (about the same time the Rhodes was designed), i was a sort of circuits guy. I've always thought the mechanical action of the older Rhodeses were a little hard compared to a Wurlitzer model 200.

best of luck,
 


Thanks for the reply! I have actually never played a Wurlitizer. Just my Rhodes and my B3...but playing Steinways on jazz gigs, the Rhodes feels good to me...I tend to like the heavier action.
 

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