How do I build simple circuits?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around building simple electronic circuits, particularly focusing on the assembly of components like resistors, capacitors, coils, diodes, and transistors. Participants explore the feasibility of creating an RLC circuit using an incandescent light bulb and seek guidance on resources and methods for learning circuit assembly.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to learn how to assemble circuits and seeks recommendations for books or resources.
  • Another participant asserts that the proposed idea of using a light bulb in an RLC circuit to save energy is not feasible, stating that energy cannot be created from the circuit.
  • A different participant warns against working with high voltages like 120v AC, suggesting starting with low-voltage battery circuits for safety.
  • One participant questions the understanding of circuit components based on the phrasing used in the initial inquiry.
  • Another participant suggests beginner electronics kits as a practical way to learn circuit assembly and theory.
  • Some participants discuss the limitations of existing kits in explaining the underlying theory of operation for circuit components.
  • A participant proposes that the current in a resonant circuit flows back and forth across the light bulb, seeking clarification on this concept.
  • Another participant emphasizes that light bulbs consume energy, not just current, and explains the implications of using a resonant circuit.
  • One participant shares their experience with various kits and expresses a desire to create circuits that can output signals at specific frequencies and voltages.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the feasibility of the proposed circuit idea, with some outright rejecting it while others seek to clarify the underlying concepts. There is no consensus on the best approach to learning circuit assembly or the effectiveness of existing resources.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations in the instructional quality of beginner kits and the need for deeper theoretical understanding. There are unresolved questions regarding the safety and practicality of using high-voltage circuits.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in learning about electronics, circuit assembly, and the theoretical underpinnings of electronic components, particularly beginners and hobbyists in the field.

  • #31
Devices 'take' only the power they need. All the power they take, they use. Much/most of the power used ends up as heat, one way or another.

If you connect a number of resistors (or light bulbs) in series, it might appear that each is taking only a fraction of the power and passing the rest on to the next. That is a confused (and confusing) view of what's going on. Power is volts x amps, and each is using all of the power it gets, though in the case of series connections, each is getting a fraction of the applied total voltage.
 
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  • #32
DruidArmy said:
I don't really know if the resistor is using 9 amps of power. It is resisting the flow of electrons, so that only 1 amp is flowing. The other 9 amps are not actually being sent out of the battery. So there is no way its wasting 9 amps. So I don't really know how much power it is using.

I think you have a decent understanding of how each of the components in the circuit work. But I think you would benefit from learning about circuit analysis. If you look online there are free lectures that you can watch and gain the same knowledge. The link below is to MIT but there are plenty more available on the web.

http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/electric...tronics-spring-2007/video-lectures/lecture-2/
 
  • #33
Thanks for the lecture link. I've watched the whole MIT series before on physics with that funny professor who has now retired. Very good lectures. I liked it when he levitated a blow up doll using a simple winding and 110v house current, using induced eddy currents. On his final lecture he attached a fire extinquisher to his tricycle and rocketed off the stage. Ha Ha.

Yes, I'm going to build some circuits (12v) and test voltages around it. I'm not sure my water hose analogy is good. Cause if i had a series of holes in it, I'm not sure if the flow (current) would be the same across all sections.

hose= --------0-------00-----000-----> the holes represent different resistances

Still trying to figure out the mechanics of what's really happening inside the wire and resistors.
 
  • #34
DruidArmy said:
Still trying to figure out the mechanics of what's really happening inside the wire and resistors.

Don't worry about that at this stage. There is -fortunately- no need to understand the underlying physics to understand circuit theory. It is better to think about the various components as "black boxes" with some functionality.
This is even more true later on when you start working with integrated circuits such as op-amps, where you -quite literally- have no idea what is inside and you have to rely on the manufacturers datasheet to understand the properties.

Also, feel free to use the water analogy if it helps, just remember that it is only works in the very simple cases and shouldn't really be used for anything but circuits with only voltage/current sources and resistors.
 

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