Old plumber wisdom, is he right or not?

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An old plumber claimed that 1/2'' piping would yield higher pressure than 3/4'' piping, a statement that sparked debate among engineers. While smaller pipes can increase flow velocity, leading to a perception of higher pressure at the exit, they also result in greater pressure drops due to friction. The discussion highlighted the difference between static and dynamic pressure, emphasizing that the plumber's assertion may stem from practical experience rather than scientific accuracy. Ultimately, the consensus is that under consistent input pressure, a smaller diameter pipe cannot produce higher exit pressure when water is flowing. The conversation reflects the challenges of reconciling traditional plumbing wisdom with modern fluid dynamics principles.
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Let us not forget the plumber's claim is about pressure, not flow rate. Pressure at the point where his piping ends and devices begin. We still care about flow so we might as well ignore him, even if when he is right.
 
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The problem here, as in so many, many cases, is not in the pursuit of the answer but the question.
The OP said, the old plumber said ‘this size [1/2”] would give a HIGHER pressure compared to the 3/4'' option’.

Of course, there is almost no information to work with here and moreover the old plumber’s statement is an
informal logical fallacy
(wrong but not absolutely, self evidently wrong).

However, it is pretty darn close to being a formal logical fallacy and it might help to explain this to your plumber :smile:

Then again...
 
  • #33
Bee Tree said:
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Many plumbers have trouble with the meanings of pressure and flow. To be an old plumber now, he may well have gone into plumbing because he wasn't getting good grades... and never understood quite a lot of things, very well.
[. . .]
I had to chuckle. :smile: My husband is a Union plumber and pipe fitter. He knows his stuff. He is now retired but still fixes every thing at our home and helps his friends too.:wink:
 
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Mary Conrads Sanburn said:
My husband is a Union plumber and pipe fitter.
How do you tell a plumber from a physicist?

Ask them to say "unionized".
 
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