One-Dimensional Motion, Bullet-through-a-board-type question

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving one-dimensional motion, specifically the behavior of a bullet as it penetrates a fence post. The problem includes calculating the bullet's speed after passing through the post and determining how many boards it could penetrate based on the forces involved.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of Newton's second law and kinematic equations to find the bullet's final speed and penetration depth. There is a focus on the correct sign for forces and velocities, with one participant questioning their initial assumptions about directionality in their calculations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing feedback on each other's reasoning. One participant acknowledges a misunderstanding regarding the direction of forces, while another confirms the logic behind using kinematic equations for further calculations. There is no explicit consensus yet on the final answers.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of the problem statement, including the mass of the bullet, the force exerted, and the dimensions of the post. The discussion highlights the importance of correctly interpreting the signs of physical quantities in the equations used.

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Homework Statement



36 g bullet, speed of 350 m/s strikes a 8 cm fence post. It is retarded by an average Force is 3.6 x 10^{6} N while going through the post.

a. Speed of bullet when it emerges?
b. How many boards could the bullet penetrate?


Homework Equations



v^{2}=v^{2}_{0}+2a\Deltax
F=ma
collision equations, maybe?

The Attempt at a Solution



I took the equation F=ma and plugged in (3.6x10^{6})=(.03 kg)a and then got a=1.0x10^{8} m/s^{2}.
I then plugged that into this equation, v^{2}=v^{2}_{0}+2a\Deltax and got
v^{2}= (350 m/s)^{2} + 2(1.0x10^{8} m/s^{2})(.08 m)
but the v I calculated is a bigger velocity than when the bullet started.
so...what is going wrong here? thank you so much in advance :)
 
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88elephants said:

Homework Statement


It is retarded by an average Force is 3.6 x 10^{6} N while going through the post.

Given an x-axis,

-------------------------------->x
Vector v, that is the speed of the bullet, goes along with x. The force F that retards(sp?) the bullet is in the opposite direction. In your equations, you're assuming F is positive.
 
Ah, it's always the positives and negatives. Thanks.

for part b, I am just going to use the same equation, with the delta x as the variable to be found, setting the final velocity to 0?
so, setting that up, it would be

v^{2}=v^{2}_{0}+2a\Deltax

0= (350 m/s)^{2} - 2(1.0 x 10^{6}) (\Deltax)

and then using that number, dividing it by the 8 cm known of the thickness of the post, ending up with the answer...
 
Yeah, your logic is right. You can always use the other formulas for accelerated motion, but that's the easy way out.
 

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