One-dimesional system non-existence fixed points

In summary, the conversation discusses a one-dimensional dynamic system with a function of x' = f(x) = rx-x^3. The homework equations involve calculating fixed points by setting f(x) = 0. The attempt at a solution involves computing f(x) = 0 and finding that the fixed points are x*={0, -sqrt(r), +sqrt(r)}. It is noted that if r<0, the imaginary fixed points become obsolete. The conversation also mentions the behavior of a system with only imaginary fixed points in terms of stability, and concludes that there would be no stable position. An example of such a system is given as x'=1 or x'=x^2+1 for imaginary solutions.
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lahanadar
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Homework Statement


First things first, this is not a HW but a coursework question. I try to understand a concept.

Assume we have a one-dimensional dynamic system with:

x'=f(x)=rx-x^3

Homework Equations


Fixed points are simply calculated by setting f(x)=0.

The Attempt at a Solution


If I compute f(x)=0:

f(x)=x(r-x^2)=0 and so x*={0, -sqrt(r), +sqrt(r)}

If r<0, then -sqrt(r), +sqrt(r) becomes obsolete since they become imaginary.

What if I only come up with only imaginary fixed points for another system? How would the system behave in terms of stability?
 
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lahanadar said:
What if I only come up with only imaginary fixed points for another system? How would the system behave in terms of stability?
Simple: there would be no stable position.
x'=1 is probably the easiest example of such a system. x'=x2+1 if you want imaginary solutions.
 

1. What is a one-dimensional system?

A one-dimensional system refers to a system that has only one independent variable, such as time or space. In this context, it typically refers to a mathematical model or physical system that can be described using only one variable.

2. What are fixed points in a one-dimensional system?

Fixed points in a one-dimensional system are values of the independent variable where the system does not change over time. In other words, the function describing the system does not vary at these points, so the system remains in a steady state.

3. Why is the non-existence of fixed points important?

The non-existence of fixed points is important because it indicates that the system is unstable or unpredictable. This means that even small changes in the initial conditions can lead to drastically different outcomes. It also suggests that the system may have chaotic behavior.

4. How can the non-existence of fixed points be determined?

The non-existence of fixed points can be determined by analyzing the system's equations or by graphing the system's behavior over time. If there are no points where the function remains constant, then there are no fixed points.

5. What are some real-world examples of one-dimensional systems without fixed points?

Some real-world examples of one-dimensional systems without fixed points include weather patterns, population growth models, and stock market fluctuations. These systems are influenced by numerous factors and can exhibit chaotic behavior, making it difficult to predict their outcomes.

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