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The discussion centers on solving three one-sided limits, with the user initially struggling to find correct answers. For the first limit, the user corrected their calculation to find it equals 0, realizing that cos(π) equals -1. The second limit was clarified to be 0 after recognizing it was an indeterminate form, leading to the conclusion that 1/0 approaches infinity. The third limit was resolved using L'Hôpital's rule, resulting in a value of 0. Overall, the user improved their understanding of limits and the importance of recognizing indeterminate forms in calculus.
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[SOLVED] One-Sided Limits

Homework Statement


I've been having problems solving for these one-sided limits.

1.\stackrel{lim}{x\rightarrow\pi^-}\frac{sinx}{1-cosx}

2.\stackrel{lim}{x\rightarrow\O^+}xln(x)

3.\stackrel{lim}{x\rightarrow\frac{\pi}{2}^-}(sec (x)-tan(x))



Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



I solved #1 as =0/1 =0



I solved #2 as \stackrel{lim}{x\rightarrow\O^+}\frac{ln(x)}{\frac{1}{x}}

=\frac{\frac{1}{x}}{1} = \frac{\frac{1}{0}}{1}

=0


I solved #3 as \stackrel{lim}{x\rightarrow\frac{\pi}{2}^-}(sec (x)-tan(x))

=\stackrel{lim}{x\rightarrow\frac{\pi}{2}^-}(\frac{1}{cosx}-\frac{sinx}{cosx})


=\stackrel{lim}{x\rightarrow\frac{\pi}{2}^-}(\frac{1-sinx}{cosx}) and I solved this down to =\stackrel{lim}{x\rightarrow\frac{\pi}{2}^-}tan(x)


= undefined

I'm missing some steps in these problems. Any help from you is greatly appreciated!
 
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ae4jm said:

Homework Statement


I've been having problems solving for these one-sided limits.

1.\stackrel{lim}{x\rightarrow\pi^-}\frac{sinx}{1-cosx}

2.\stackrel{lim}{x\rightarrow\O^+}xln(x)

3.\stackrel{lim}{x\rightarrow\frac{\pi}{2}^-}(sec (x)-tan(x))



Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



I solved #1 as =0/1 =0
How did you get 0/1? What is cos(\pi)?


I solved #2 as \stackrel{lim}{x\rightarrow\O^+}\frac{ln(x)}{\frac{1}{x}}

=\frac{\frac{1}{x}}{1} = \frac{\frac{1}{0}}{1}

= 0
and why would 1/0 = 0??


I solved #3 as \stackrel{lim}{x\rightarrow\frac{\pi}{2}^-}(sec (x)-tan(x))

=\stackrel{lim}{x\rightarrow\frac{\pi}{2}^-}(\frac{1}{cosx}-\frac{sinx}{cosx})


=\stackrel{lim}{x\rightarrow\frac{\pi}{2}^-}(\frac{1-sinx}{cosx}) and I solved this down to =\stackrel{lim}{x\rightarrow\frac{\pi}{2}^-}tan(x)


= undefined
Since you used L'Hopital's rule in #2, why not here?
\lim_{x\rightarrow \frac{\pi^-}{2}} \frac{1- sin(x)}{cos(x)}= \lim_{x\rightarrow \frac{\pi^-}{2}}\frac{-cos(x)}{sin(x)}[/itex]<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I&#039;m missing some steps in these problems. Any help from you is greatly appreciated! </div> </div> </blockquote> By the way- don&#039;t use &quot;stackrel&quot; in that way.<br /> \lim_{x\rightarrow \frac{\pi^-}{2}}<br /> is much easier to read than<br /> \stackrel{lim}{x\rightarrow\frac{\pi}{2}^-}
 
ae4jm said:

Homework Statement


I've been having problems solving for these one-sided limits.

1.\stackrel{lim}{x\rightarrow\pi^-}\frac{sinx}{1-cosx}

2.\stackrel{lim}{x\rightarrow\O^+}xln(x)

3.\stackrel{lim}{x\rightarrow\frac{\pi}{2}^-}(sec (x)-tan(x))



Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



I solved #1 as =0/1 =0



I solved #2 as \stackrel{lim}{x\rightarrow\O^+}\frac{ln(x)}{\frac{1}{x}}

=\frac{\frac{1}{x}}{1} = \frac{\frac{1}{0}}{1}

=0
And why would 1/0 be 0?


I solved #3 as \stackrel{lim}{x\rightarrow\frac{\pi}{2}^-}(sec (x)-tan(x))

=\stackrel{lim}{x\rightarrow\frac{\pi}{2}^-}(\frac{1}{cosx}-\frac{sinx}{cosx})


=\stackrel{lim}{x\rightarrow\frac{\pi}{2}^-}(\frac{1-sinx}{cosx}) and I solved this down to =\stackrel{lim}{x\rightarrow\frac{\pi}{2}^-}tan(x)

= undefined
Since you used L'Hopital's rule in #2, why not here?
\lim_{x\rightarrow\frac{\pi^-}{2}}\frac{1- sin x}{cos x}= \lim_{x\rightarrow\frac{\pi^-}2}}\frac{cos x}{sin x}
What is that limit?

I'm missing some steps in these problems. Any help from you is greatly appreciated!
By the way "stackrel" makes that very hard to read.
\lim_{x\rightarrow\frac{\pi^-}{2}}
is much better than
\stackrel{lim}{x\rightarrow\frac{\pi}{2}^-}
Click on the LaTex to see the code.
 
#1. I should have gotten 0/2 for #1, because cos(pi)=1 and 0/(1-(-1))=0/2
I thought that 0/(any nymber greater than or less than 0) is equal to 0, but if the fraction was 2/0, there would be an infinite, positive for the limit approaching from the right and negative infinity for numbers approaching from the left?

#2. I reworked through the problem several times and I keep getting (1/0)/1 which is, after going over my notes several times, = to infinity/1 which is = infinity

#3. I got = 0, after following L'Hopital's as you said. I originally -0/1, which would be = 0.

I apologize about the laytex from my previous post. I was unable to check the box for quoting your reply and when I clicked to preview my post on this reply I wasn't seeing any latex images, so I just used the harder to read way of expressing my answers--sorry for not using latex.

EDIT:
Is this what you were trying to get me to understand? That 1/0 in limits is equal to an infinite answer and that 0/1 in limits is equal to 0?
 
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Am I going about the solutions correctly now?
 
I found my error on problem #2. It should be equal to 0 after rewriting the form of the limit because it was indeterminant. I got it finalized and came up with 0 for the answer to number 2. Thanks HallsofIvy.
 
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