News One simple fact that gets overlooked

[TuviaDaCat]

So you think it's because of the environment then? And not something 'natural' now?

i said that is is natural to hate us, but ffs, i never said that its natural to bomb urself on citizens...

 

[Anttech]

was bombing north israel reasonable?

or is the hamas goverment, in which many times sent its man to bomb buses loaded with people reasonable?

was arafat rasonable when barak offered him all he could ask for, yet he
refused by making up a new demands in the end of a negotiation of a long long dispute...

is iran reasonable? have u heard of his intentions of nuclear options, and the speeches on a new holocaust, to both israel and americans?

its a sad thing, a very sad thing, that when arab countries can be called reasonable only when the country is controlled by dictator, or a fake democracy. lybia, egypt, jordan, are good examples...

reason has left the house if u ask me

Heres some facts for you, you interpret them as you please:

Lebanon deaths:
About 1,000 - mostly civilians
No precise data on Hezbollah dead
Israeli deaths:
Soldiers: 114 (IDF)
Civilians: 43 (IDF)
Lebanon displaced:
700,000 - 900,000 (UNHCR; Lebanese govt)
Israeli displaced:
500,000 (Human Rights Watch)
Lebanon damage:
$2.5bn (Lebanese govt)
Israel damage:
$1.1bn (Israeli govt)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4791125.stm

For a terrorist group they are quiet a good aim, wouldn't you say? Anyway the terrorist tag on Hezbollah is in the dock right now.

 

[TuviaDaCat]

wait... so.. what is ur point?
i know that we lost less, should we be the ones in misery to have the legitimacy to attack any agrresors? we are stronger, does that make the reaction on our behaf unjust?

also, u should add the fact that hizbulla stored missiles, and launched missiles from civil areas, so, would u expect us to just walk in there to urban areas where terrorists lurk in every home? we tried that due to "humanitarian UN" pressures in many operations in palestine cities, that costs a lot of death to the infantry units...
so the method was: tell the house holders to evacuate, and then we destroy the damn thing. though hizbulla found it reasonable to hold people by force in their villages. i almost didnt believe it myself, but there are pictures of it... captured by israeli airdrones, u see how missile carriers enter a random house, as a good spot to shoot from.

oh god ffs , u people complicate the obvious... we have no need of being there besides defence, why the hack would we enter lebanon? are we evil maybe? with sadist urges? or maybe we should minimize civ from dying, and we just send infantry to every home in lebanon and by that lose another 300 soliders?

two dogs know understand this situation better then u...
when a dog bites another, the other dog bites back, and when one cannot fight, it is left alone.
thats all to it.
and btw, the millatery operation cost us a loooot more...
and the civs killed was minimized because most people just ran away, with the suppurt of israeli foundations, and all else stayed for a month in shelters.

again, the one in greater condition, is not the one to blame.

 

[Anttech]

My point is that the 'random rocketing at Israeli civilians' doesn't hold as much weight as it did before we knew all the facts! In fact it is moot in my opinion, They were a lot more sophisticated than anyone expected..

though hizbulla found it reasonable to hold people by force in their villages. i almost didnt believe it myself, but there are pictures of it... captured by israeli airdrones, u see how missile carriers enter a random house, as a good spot to shoot from.

Provide a source to this, I find it strange what you say. Hezbollah are the largest employer outside the government in Lebanon. They *seem* to be loved by many for the 'resistance' fighting they were perceived to be doing. A group that is loved wouldn't be 'forcing' people to stay put, would they?

 

[TuviaDaCat]

i do not know an internet source for it, but i heard on the news not once, that people are being held in towns, to maximize casulties, since it is politicaly bad for israel.
it may be unbelivable, but since they launch missiles from towns instead of just shooting from open fields, it tells a lot about their uncare to civic casulties.
and it is a fact that they enter houses as a launching areas.i want to add, this country had enough war, we don't want any part in it, we hate it, we do not carry any fascist views, but it repeats itself, arab countries controlled by the religous cannot be resoned with on a table, and believe me we tried...
and we also know that terrorism cannot be diminished easly, so the army is working a lot on border defence... we have that laser developed on american budjets, but its not operational(though it could put down 46 low distance ground missiles), and the fence being built in this days, which is suppose to prevent intruders..

so if u can't beat them, nor talk to them, ignore them. i just hope that its possible.