Open/closed subsets of metric space

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The discussion revolves around the properties of open and closed subsets within the context of metric spaces, specifically focusing on subsets of the real numbers.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore definitions of open and closed sets, particularly the boundary of a set. There are attempts to clarify how every subset of \mathbb{R} can be considered open based on the boundary definition. Questions arise about identifying closed subsets and whether every subset can also be closed.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the definitions of open and closed sets. Some guidance is offered regarding the implications of a set being open on its complement, but no consensus has been reached on the nature of closed subsets.

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There is a focus on the definitions of boundaries and the implications of these definitions on the classification of subsets as open or closed. Participants are questioning the assumptions underlying these definitions.

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I've got through this question up to the last bit.

I've got [itex]B(0,1) = \{0\}[/itex] and [itex]B(0,2) = \{y\in\mathbb{R} : -1<y<1 \}[/itex] (i.e. the open interval (-1,1).)

How do I show that every subset of [itex]\mathbb{R}[/itex] is open ([itex]A \subseteq X[/itex] is open if it contains none if its boundary)

and then find which subsets are closed?
 
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What definition of the boundary are you using?
 
vela said:
What definition of the boundary are you using?

[itex]x\in\partial A[/itex] if for all [itex]r>0[/itex], [itex]B(x,r)[/itex] intersects both [itex]A[/itex] and [itex]A^c[/itex].
 
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OK, so that means if A is open, for every x in A, you can find some r>0 such that B(x,r) is contained in A.
 
vela said:
OK, so that means if A is open, for every x in A, you can find some r>0 such that B(x,r) is contained in A.

OK, so if [itex]A \subseteq \mathbb{R}[/itex] and [itex]x\in A[/itex] then [itex]B(x,1)=\{x\} \subseteq A[/itex] so every subset [itex]A[/itex] of [itex]\mathbb{R}[/itex] is open.

How do I find which subsets are closed?
 
The answer should be pretty obvious if you consider the definition of a closed set.
 
vela said:
The answer should be pretty obvious if you consider the definition of a closed set.

Is every subset also closed?

If [itex]x\in A^c[/itex] then [itex]B(x,1) = \{x\} \subseteq A^c[/itex]
 
Yup. If every subset is open, Ac is open; therefore, A is closed.
 

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