Closed and Open Subsets of a Metric Space

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The problem involves a metric space defined on an infinite set X, where the distance between distinct points is 1 and the distance between a point and itself is 0. Participants are tasked with proving this is a metric and identifying all open and closed subsets of X under this metric.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the nature of open subsets, suggesting that singletons are open and questioning if all subsets of X can be considered open based on this reasoning. There is also a consideration of closed subsets and whether they exist under the given metric.

Discussion Status

Some participants express agreement that all subsets are open, while others suggest reconsidering the implications of this conclusion. The discussion is exploring the dual nature of subsets being both open and closed, with no definitive resolution reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the definitions and properties of open and closed sets in the context of the specified metric, questioning assumptions about limit points and the implications for subsets of X.

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Homework Statement



Let X be an infinite set. For p\in X and q\in X,

d(p,q)=1 for p\neq q and d(p,q)=0 for p=q

Prove that this is a metric. Find all open subsets of X with this metric. Find all closed subsets of X with this metric.

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The Attempt at a Solution



I showed easily that this is indeed a metric.

On the second part of the question, it seems to be the case that all subsets \left\{x\right\} for all x\in X are open because choosing a radius less than 1 gives a neighborhood around x which only contains x itself.

But then any subset of X should be open, shouldn't it? Because each point of that subset can be shown to be an interior point using the logic above.

Similarly, there should be no closed subsets. Each point in a subset of X obviously has a neighborhood which contains only that point.

Any ideas? Thanks!
 
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gajohnson said:

Homework Statement



Let X be an infinite set. For p\in X and q\in X,

d(p,q)=1 for p\neq q and d(p,q)=0 for p=q

Prove that this is a metric. Find all open subsets of X with this metric. Find all closed subsets of X with this metric.

Homework Equations



NA

The Attempt at a Solution



I showed easily that this is indeed a metric.

On the second part of the question, it seems to be the case that all subsets \left\{x\right\} for all x\in X are open because choosing a radius less than 1 gives a neighborhood around x which only contains x itself.

But then any subset of X should be open, shouldn't it? Because each point of that subset can be shown to be an interior point using the logic above.

Correct. All sets are open.

Similarly, there should be no closed subsets.

You might want to rethink this.
 
micromass said:
Correct. All sets are open.



You might want to rethink this.

OK, so every subset of X contains no limit points, so every subset of X must be closed.

...so every subset of X is both open and closed?
 
That is correct!
 
micromass said:
That is correct!

Excellent. Many thanks to you!
 

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