Optical Gian vs Electrical Gain

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the trade-offs between optical gain, specifically using an Erbium-Doped Fiber Amplifier (EDFA), and electrical gain, such as with a PIN photodiode and transimpedance amplifier, in the context of optical signal processing. Additionally, there is an inquiry into methods for converting a coherent optical signal into an incoherent one, exploring both passive and active techniques.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the trade-offs between optical gain and electrical gain in terms of performance and application.
  • Another participant inquires about methods to convert a coherent signal into an incoherent one, suggesting chirping the signal and using a non-linear medium as potential approaches.
  • A participant mentions that a diffuser is typically used to reduce coherence in optical signals.
  • There is a question regarding whether the higher bandwidth of optical gain refers to the optical bandwidth or temporal aspects.
  • Another participant raises a question about the role of a diffuser in breaking spatial coherence and its effect on temporal coherence, as well as the possibility of stimulating higher order modes to create speckle patterns.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of optical gain versus electrical gain, and there is no consensus on the methods for converting coherent signals to incoherent ones. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing ideas presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully defined the terms related to coherence and gain, and there are unresolved questions regarding the specific mechanisms by which diffusers affect coherence.

narra
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Hi,
I was wondering what the trade-offs were in having an optical gain (say with EDFA) compared to electrical gain (say with a PIN and transimpedance amplifier) of an optical signal.
Thanks.
 
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Is it possible to turn a very coherent signal into one much less

Hi,

I am curious to know if there any passive (or simple active) methods to convert a very coherent signal into an incoherent one? I suppose I would need to find a way to chirp the signal and a non-linear medium might be one method. Any ideas?

Thanks

narra
 
For coherent optical signals, a component called a diffuser is normally used to reduce the coherence.

Regarding your first post, optical gain has a much higher bandwidth than electrical gain.

Claude.
 
Hi Sorry, I somehow posted a question within another post. Thanks for your reply on both though. I have a few more things to ask based on your answers if you don't mind.

Post 1: When you say optical gain is much higher bandwidth, do you mean in terms of gain available across and optical bandwidth or temporally?

Post 2: Is a diffuser more to break the spatial coherence? If so, how does this impart temporal coherence?

Or

perhaps to stimulate higher order modes; forming "Speckle"?

Regards,

narra
 

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