Optics - right handed circular polarization

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The discussion revolves around formulating an expression for a right-handed circularly polarized light wave traveling in the positive z-direction, with specific conditions on the electric field at z=0 and t=0.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • The original poster attempts to derive the electric field expression and questions how to ensure it points in the negative x-direction at the specified conditions. Some participants discuss the implications of the terms used in the expression and their relation to polarization direction.

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Some participants have offered guidance on verifying the direction of rotation and checking the derivative at specific points. There is an acknowledgment of a typo in the original post regarding the wave vector notation, which has been noted for correction.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of circular polarization and the mathematical representation of the electric field, with some uncertainty about the correct formulation and assumptions involved.

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Homework Statement



Write an expression for a light wave circular polarized to the right, traveling in the positive ZZ direction, such that the electric field points in the negative XX direction at z=0, t=0.

Homework Equations



Right handed polarization is the same as clockwise, I think..

##E_{0x} = E_{0y}## throughout the whole thing.

$$\vec{E}(z,t)=E_{0x}sin(kz - wt)\vec{i} + E_{0y}sin(kz - wt + \frac{\pi}{2})\vec{j}$$

The Attempt at a Solution



Well, I'm having a problem.

$$\vec{E}(z,t)=E_{0x}cos(kz - wt)\vec{i} + E_{0y}sin(kz - wt)\vec{j}$$

At ##z=0##, we have

$$\vec{E}(0,t)=E_{0x}cos(wt)\vec{i} - E_{0y}sin(wt)\vec{j}$$

So it indeed moves clockwise (co-sine decreases while the sin increases negatively)

At ##z=0## and ##t=0##:

$$\vec{E}(0,0)=E_{0x}\vec{i}$$ Which does not point in the negative XX direction.

If I place a minus in the co-sine term, then it'll look like this:

$$\vec{E}(0,t)= - E_{0x}cos(wt)\vec{i} - E_{0y}sin(wt)\vec{j}$$

and that means that the co-sine will decrease negatively and the sin increase negatively. That would be a left handed circular polarization, because it would be counter-clockwise. I think?

So, how do I go about doing this?
 
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I think I solved my problem. No idea how I didn't see this sooner. Well, I actually did, but I dismissed it for some reason..

I think the following equation satisfies everything:

$$\vec{E}(z,t)=-E_{0}cos(kz - wt)\vec{i} - E_{0y}sin(kz - wt)\vec{j}$$

Would someone please confirm?
 
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Can anyone confirm it? Is it correct?
 
While optics is a bit out of my realm, it looks as though what you have will definitely rotate clockwise. If you're not sure you can check the direction of the derivative at a point on the unit circle. If you want the direction it's pointing in check the direction of your function at that point.

Just a quick question, if you have E(z,t), why are you setting kx = 0 at E(0,t) ?
Should that be kz instead?
 
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BiGyElLoWhAt said:
While optics is a bit out of my realm, it looks as though what you have will definitely rotate clockwise. If you're not sure you can check the direction of the derivative at a point on the unit circle. If you want the direction it's pointing in check the direction of your function at that point.

Just a quick question, if you have E(z,t), why are you setting kx = 0 at E(0,t) ?
Should that be kz instead?

Oh yes, that's definitely a typo. Where it reads ##kx## it should be ##kz##. Thanks for the heads-up, will edit right away!
 

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