Optimisation and best use of space

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around optimizing the shape of a concert venue to maximize area while maintaining a fixed perimeter. Participants are exploring mathematical relationships involving perimeter and area, specifically using differentiation to identify maximum area conditions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between different geometric shapes (circle, square, rectangle) and their areas in relation to a fixed perimeter. There is an exploration of how these shapes might affect the venue's design and functionality. Questions arise regarding the interpretation of the final question about examining the shape and suggesting improvements.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided initial observations about the shapes that maximize area, noting that a circle typically offers the largest area for a given perimeter. Others are questioning how the specific constraints of the problem might affect these general principles. Suggestions for improvements to the venue are being considered, but no consensus has been reached.

Contextual Notes

There is a request for additional information regarding the dimensions of the concert venue, which may impact the analysis. Participants are also considering the implications of 3D design elements, such as tiered seating, on the area.

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Homework Statement



I initially had to use the attached diagram to solve problems related to a concert venue.So I created a formula for perimeter and area and used these to create a formula for area with x as the only variable.I used differentiation to find the value of x when the area is at a maximum.

Value for Pi given as 22/7

P=4xy + 2x +Pix

A=4xy +Pix^2/2

y=p-36/7x

y into area formula to give a= px -25x^2/7

The final question I'm stuck on asks "Critically examine the shape of the concert venue with this maximum area and comment on it.Make 2 suggestions for improving the concert venue given that the perimeter must remain the same"

Homework Equations



I've solved these to

a =-25x^2/7 + px and x =7p/50


The Attempt at a Solution



I'm a little stuck on what the final question is asking, my intial observations are that a circle would give the maximum area based off a fixed perimeter and that while a square offers more area than a rectangle, now it is used in conjunction with a semi-circle the rectangle provides the best solution.As the circle is linked to the x value, if you reduce x to make a square the area of the circle is reduced.


Thanks for reading
 
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Homework Statement



I initially had to use the attached diagram to solve problems related to a concert venue.So I created a formula for perimeter and area and used these to create a formula for area with x as the only variable.I used differentiation to find the value of x when the area is at a maximum.

The final question I'm stuck on asks to critically examine the shape of the concert venue with this maximum area and comment on it.Make 2 suggestions for improving the concert venue given that the perimeter must remain the same.

Homework Equations



I've solved these to

a =-25x^2/7 + px and x =7p/50


The Attempt at a Solution



I'm a little stuck on what the final question is asking, my intial observations are that a circle would give the maximum area based off a fixed perimeter and that while a square offers more area than a rectangle, now it is used in conjunction with a semi-circle the rectangle provides the best solution.


Thanks for reading

Your diagram is so small that I can't read the dimensions on it. Please provide the exact problem statement, including the dimensions of the concert venue.
 
Made the necessary changes :)
 
So I'm thinking of covering the below in my obeservation:

How and circle or square are usually the best use of perimeter for maximum area with proven examples in the form of equations.

How in this example this doesn't work as the circle perimeter is linked proportionally to the x value making a rectangle a better solution

For the improvements:

A circular venue would provide the maximum area.

If I thought in 3D terms, would a tiered seating plan increase the area?


Is there anything else you think I should add?

Thanks
 

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