Optimization of the distance from the point on an ellipse

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion focuses on optimizing the distance from a point on an ellipse defined by the equation \(4x^2 + 5y^2 = 20\). The initial attempt to maximize the distance \(D=\sqrt{x^2+(y+2)^2}\) led to an incorrect conclusion of \(y=8\), which does not lie on the ellipse. The correct maximum occurs at the endpoint \(y=2\) after evaluating the function \(D(y)=\sqrt{\frac{20-5y^2}{4}+(y+2)^2}\) within the bounds of \(y \in [-2, 2]\). The discussion emphasizes the importance of checking endpoints when critical points do not exist within the interval.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of ellipse equations and their properties
  • Knowledge of distance formulas in coordinate geometry
  • Familiarity with differentiation and critical points
  • Basic concepts of optimization techniques, including Lagrange multipliers
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the method of Lagrange multipliers for constrained optimization
  • Explore the properties of ellipses and their geometric interpretations
  • Learn about evaluating functions at endpoints in optimization problems
  • Investigate the implications of critical points in calculus
USEFUL FOR

Mathematicians, students studying calculus and optimization, and anyone interested in geometric problem-solving involving ellipses.

Saptarshi Sarkar
Messages
98
Reaction score
13
Homework Statement
Find the point on an ellipse ##4x^2 + 5y^2 = 20## that is farthest away from the point (0,-2).
Relevant Equations
##D=\sqrt{x^2+(y+2)^2}##
My Attempt :We need to maximize

## D=\sqrt{x^2+(y+2)^2} ##

subject to the constraint

##4x^2 + 5y^2 = 20##.

From the constraint equation, we can write

##x^2=\frac{20-5y^2}{4}##

Using this in the formula for distance,

##D=\sqrt{\frac{20-5y^2}{4}+(y+2)^2}##

Differentiating this wrt y, and equating it to 0,

##\frac{5y}2=4y+8##

Solving this, we get y = 8

But, this can't be the answer as it doesn't even lie on the ellipse. The correct answer should be (0,2) but I didn't even get 2 as a possible answer.

What did I do wrong?

PS : I know that I can use Lagrange's method. I did that and got the correct answer. But I want to know what is the mistake that I made in this one.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
You have to think about bounds: You are trying to maximize the function ##D(y)=\sqrt{\frac{20-5y^2}{4}+(y+2)^2}## on the interval ##y\in [-2,2]## (since this is the range of possible ##y## values). Since you found that ##D## has no critical points in the interior of this interval, the maximum value must be obtained at an endpoint- so you should check ##y=-2## and ##y=2## individually, and find that ##D## is maximized at ##y=2##.
 
Last edited:
  • Informative
Likes Saptarshi Sarkar

Similar threads

Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
2K
Replies
20
Views
2K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
2K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
4K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
1K