Optimization: Rectangle Inscribed in Triangle

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The discussion focuses on optimizing the area of a rectangle inscribed in a triangle, referencing a specific problem from a JSTOR article. Participants clarify that while derivatives can be used to find maximum values, completing the square is an alternative method that can yield the same results without calculus. The conversation highlights a user's struggle with algebraic concepts like completing the square, despite familiarity with derivatives. There is an acknowledgment of the challenges faced when returning to math after a long break. Overall, the thread emphasizes different approaches to solving the optimization problem while encouraging further exploration of both methods.
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[SOLVED] Optimization: Rectangle Inscribed in Triangle

Homework Statement



Please see http://www.jstor.org/pss/2686484 link. The problem I have is pretty much exactly the same as that dealt with in this excerpt.

(focus on the bit with the heading "What is the biggest rectangle you can put inside a triangle")

Homework Equations



Shown in the link above.

The Attempt at a Solution



I basically want someone to please explain why we need not use a derivative. As you can see, the last sentence is chopped off and leaves me hanging. :smile:
 
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We see that x(a-x) is maximum if and only if after completing the square (x-\frac{a}{2})^2 =0 for when x=? Therefore, the maximum rectangle has a height of what?
 
Sorry, I didn't really answer your question. You don't need to use the derivative to find the maximum values of x and y because by completing the squares you can find the maximum value of x. Then, you can use x to find the area of that maximum triangle in terms of the area of the triangle.
 
Could you still use a derivative though?
 
"We need not use a derivative" does not imply that we can't use a derivative to solve for maximum x. So, yes you can use a derivative.
 
konthelion said:
"We need not use a derivative" does not imply that we can't use a derivative to solve for maximum x. So, yes you can use a derivative.

Thank you very much for your help konthelion. I'm going to give it a shot using derivatives (I know nothing about completing the squares) and if you don't mind, I'd like you to have a peek at it as soon as I get round to posting it here...
 
It's very strange that a person would be able to use the derivative (a calculus topic) but not know how to complete the square (an algebra topic).
 
HallsofIvy said:
It's very strange that a person would be able to use the derivative (a calculus topic) but not know how to complete the square (an algebra topic).

I know the quadratic equation, but never learned how it was derived (after some googling yesterday, I realized it's the result of completing the square)

Were never taught it in school. Also, there's an eight year gap between the last time I did any maths and starting my BSc in Physics this year...

It's tough going :smile:
 

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