Optimizing D-Shaped Shaft and Hole Fit for DC Motor and Impeller Operation

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around optimizing the fit between a D-shaped shaft of a DC motor and a D-shaped hole in an impeller used in an air pump. Participants explore factors affecting wear and performance, including tolerances, fit types, and potential redesigns, while considering varying load profiles and speeds during operation.

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  • Exploratory
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  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that a loose fit between the shaft and hole can lead to wobbling and fretting wear, emphasizing the importance of tolerances in manufacturing.
  • There is a proposal that tighter fits may be beneficial, and a redesign of the impeller to create a "springy" D-hole could allow for an interference fit.
  • Participants discuss the need to analyze tolerances by considering both the smallest shaft in the largest hole and the largest shaft in the smallest hole to prevent fretting and ensure assembly without overstressing components.
  • One participant notes that the analysis of the fit cannot be done through hand calculations and suggests using Finite Element Analysis (FEA) for iterative design testing, particularly with SolidWorks software.
  • Questions are raised regarding specific parameters such as the diameter of the shaft, maximum RPM, and how imbalance and misalignment are managed in the system.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying views on the optimal fit and potential redesigns, indicating that multiple competing approaches and considerations remain unresolved.

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Limitations include the need for specific dimensional data and operational parameters, as well as the dependency on manufacturing tolerances and the potential for redesigns that have not been fully explored.

Who May Find This Useful

Engineers and designers working on mechanical systems involving rotating components, particularly those focused on optimizing fits and minimizing wear in dynamic applications.

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Hello together,

Currently working on an investigation and need some support. A small DC-motor shaft with a milled D-Shaped shaft at the end should drive a D-Shaped hole of an impeller. Impeller belongs to an air pump and the load profile and speed are varying during operation. I have observed some wear on the D-Shaped hole of impeller and need to understand and eliminate the failure, I can not change the design but can only to optimize the dimensions. Which rules should I take into account for a proper fitting of that two D-Shapes ? What other factors should I need to check load, speed etc. Neef proposals and sources, books etc. Thanks a lot.
 
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If the shaft is a loose fit in the hole, it will wobble and cause wear by fretting (search the term). Also study tolerances - what tolerances are realistic for the manufacturing processes used to make the parts?

A general rule is that tighter is better. Can the impeller be redesigned to make the D-hole springy so that it can be assembled with an interference fit?
 
Hi jrmichler

Thanks for reply, yes we can think about a redesign, what do you mean with springy D-Hole and interface kit ?
 
First find the tolerances of both the shaft and the hole. Then look at two cases: the smallest shaft in the largest hole, and the largest shaft in the smallest hole. The loose case (small shaft / large hole) must grip tight enough to prevent fretting at the highest torque. The tight case (large shaft / small hole) must allow assembly without breaking or overstressing anything.

If a simple D-shaped hole cannot do the job, you can redesign it to allow larger deflection at lower stress. The diagram below shows what I mean. A standard D-shaped hole is on the left, and a springy hole on the right.

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The analysis cannot be done by hand calculations. This problem requires FEA and iteration. That means that you have to try different designs, check each one, and keep trying until a good solution is found.

If you are using SolidWorks, their top package has FEA capabilities that will do this easily and well. A properly modeled problem in SolidWorks FEA will run in less than a minute, so it is easy to iterate until you get a good solution.
 
@Ahmed83.
What is the diameter of the shaft ?
What is the maximum RPM ?
How are imbalance and misalignment accommodated ?
 

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