Optimizing the Radius of a Synchrotron for Radiation Production

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the considerations for selecting the radius of a synchrotron storage ring specifically for the purpose of producing synchrotron radiation. Participants explore factors influencing radius choice, including radiation intensity, electron beam energy, and magnet technology.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about the criteria used to determine the radius of synchrotron storage rings, particularly for radiation production.
  • One participant notes that radiation intensity is inversely proportional to the radius, questioning why current facilities have large radii.
  • Another participant suggests that the energy of the electron beam affects the radius, as higher energy beams require smaller curvature to maintain their path.
  • It is mentioned that sophisticated electronics are necessary for effective synchrotron operation, implying that technical capabilities influence design choices.
  • Concerns are raised about the safety of the radiation produced, particularly x-rays, and the need for shielding in synchrotron facilities.
  • Participants discuss that many synchrotron facilities utilize radiation from insertion devices rather than the synchrotron radiation itself, indicating a design focus on beam circulation rather than radiation production.
  • One participant highlights that advancements in magnet technology have allowed for smaller and more powerful synchrotrons, suggesting a trade-off between radius size and energy loss due to synchrotron radiation.
  • Another participant mentions the development of free electron lasers as a potential method for producing radiation at smaller radii.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying views on the reasons for the large radii of current synchrotron facilities, with some suggesting that the design is not primarily focused on radiation production. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the optimal radius for radiation production and the implications of various design factors.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge that the choice of radius involves multiple factors, including energy levels, magnet strength, and the intended use of the synchrotron radiation, but do not reach a consensus on specific criteria or optimal designs.

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Hi, there. I have a question:
If I want to build a facility for synchrotron RADIATION (not for particle physics experiment),
how to chose the radius of the storage ring?
(Why the radii of current facilities are so large?)
Thank you.
 
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I don't understand the question's direction/inference. Are you simply asking;

ada_ada_2002 said:
Why the radii of current facilities are so large?

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well, I mean, how the researched decided the radius of the storage ring in the first place. If I want to use the radiation, I will think about the wavelength range and the radiation intensity. Are there anything else I should consider? And how to choose a radius based on these considerations?
That's what I want to ask.

About the last question, why current radii are so large, I feel it is strange because radiation intensity is inversely proportional to the radius: the smaller the radius, the larger the intensity -- so, why they made the radius so large?
 
1. It depends on how high of an energy the electron beam will have. The high the energy, the more difficult it is to bend its path. So you tend to make a ring with a smaller curvature.

2. Unless you have sophisticated electronics that can time the kick to each electron bunch just right, you will not have a "synchrotron".

3. The "radiation" typically coming out of a typical synchrotron is a dangerous level of x-rays! Even the bremstrallung radiation coming from 1 MeV electron bunch will emit unsafe radiation if it is not shielded.

4. Most synchrotron radiation centers often do not make use of the synchrotron radiation. Rather, they use radiation coming from various insertion devices along the path of the beam. These are inserted along the straight sections of the ring. So in essence, the ring is simply to recirculate the beam, rather than actually to produce the synchrotron radiation.

Zz.
 
Thank you ZapperZ!
 
The strength of the dipole magnets used to bend the beam would also be an important factor. The smaller the radius of the circle of the beam for a given particle speed, the greater the bending force that is required from these bending magnets. Improvements in magnet technology have allowed synchrotrons to become smaller and more powerful.

Each bend produces synchrotron radiation. As Zapperz points out, the synchrotron radiation produced at each bending magnet is normally wasted energy. So there is a trade off: the smaller you make the circle the greater the amount of power that is lost. The lost energy has to be replaced to keep the electrons moving at constant speed. So energy cost also a factor in how small you want to make the radius of the ring.

AM
 
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Thank you Andrew! I can get what you and ZapperZ said. Maybe most synchrotrons are not built for radiation, that's why they made the storage ring so large. If for radiation, bending the relativistic electrons at a small radius is not impossible: at least, they have already developed free electron lasers using wigglers.
 

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