Full treatment of synchrotorn radiation

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The discussion revolves around the detailed treatment of synchrotron radiation, specifically focusing on the mathematical formulation and the evaluation of the radiated energy per unit solid angle per unit angular frequency. Participants reference various texts, including Rybicki & Lightman and Longair, to explore the implications of retarded time and the simplifications involved in the exponential factor during the analysis.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks clarification on the transition from the exponential factor exp(i w (t' + R(t')/c)) to exp(i w (t' - n.r_o(t')/c)), questioning the application of a first-order expansion.
  • Another participant suggests that the term r/c in the exponential is constant and does not depend on retarded time, thus acting as a phase factor that can be neglected in the physical analysis.
  • A reference to Jackson (1975) is made, indicating that the constant term does not significantly impact the physics of the process.
  • A later reply cites Blumenthal & Gould (1970) as providing similar justification for neglecting the constant term in the exponential, reinforcing the earlier points made.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants appear to converge on the idea that the term r/c can be neglected as it does not affect the physical interpretation of the results. However, the initial question regarding the derivation of the final exponential form remains a point of exploration without a definitive consensus on the method used.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the distance of the source and the treatment of retarded time, which may not be universally applicable. The reliance on specific texts for justification introduces potential limitations based on the interpretations of those sources.

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Hello,

I am trying to understand the details of the full treatment of synchrotron radiation. I am using Rybicki & Lightman (1979), along with the more detailed treatment given by Longair (1992).

For instance, in Longair, chapter 18 (p.240 in the Second Edition), I see that the radiated energy per unit solid angle per unit angular frequency is evaluated at the retarded time, and a change of variable is operated: going from time t to retarded time t',
with t' = t - R(t')/c.
and
R(t') = r - n.r_o(t')
(n is the unit vector along the direction joining the particle to the point where the radiation is measured, and r_o(t') is the position vector of the particle at t')

In the exponential factor exp(i w t) coming from the Fourier transform, the change of variable leads to
exp(i w ( t'+R(t')/c )).

It is then said that r_o(t') << r (I agree with that, as the source is at a quite large distance), and finally the exponential factor becomes

exp(i w ( t' - n.r_o(t')/c ))

I can't understand how to obtain this last result. Probably a first order expansion could be applied somehow but I don't see where and how.

Please, could someone give me an explanation for that?

Thank you so much in advance for your help.

Best regards.
 
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Thanks for the post! Sorry you aren't generating responses at the moment. Do you have any further information, come to any new conclusions or is it possible to reword the post?
 
Hello,

Thanks a lot for your reaction.

I possibly found an answer to my question quite recently.

The exponential factor can be written (considering the expression of R(t') in my first post)

exp(i w ( t'+R(t')/c )) = exp(i w ( t' + r/c - n.r_o(t')/c ))

The term r/c in the exponential is not a function of retarded time. As a result, this term plays the role of a phase which does not play a significant role in physics of the process (see Jackson 1975). The important terms are those with a dependence with respect to retarded time t'.

So, the exponential factor reduces to

exp(i w ( t' - n.r_o(t')/c ))

I hope this is convincing enough.

Best regards.
 
Hi Mike!

Thanks for coming back with your answer, I read your OP and was intrigued, but couldn't answer it myself.
 
Hi e.bar.goum,

As a complementary information following my previous post, the quantity r/c is constant as r is simply the distance between the point where the radiation is measured and the origin from where the position vectors are defined.

In addition, I also found in the paper by Blumenthal & Gould (1970, Rev. Mod. Phys., 42, 237) the same justification for neglecting the constant term in the exponential (p.258): "... a constant term has been ignored as contributing only an over-all phase factor..."

It seems the solution is there!

Best regards.
 

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